Jackie_tack

Nov 22, 2012

I have been to many cities in the Arab world, and in every you can find a minaret on the horizion.

While not all of them look alike they usually have common features

1-they are far taller than any other structure in the neighborhood

2-they have some sort of a point on top and tapering profile that is centered on a vertical axis

3-Most of them are narrow, or the width is small in relation to the height.

4-the ones that are not tapered tend to look like a smoke stack or a post.

You could claim that the freedom tower is too large to be a minaret, but it has to be in order to be taller than the skyscrapers in it's neighborhood.

My home city will now be like the Arab cities I have been to. I will look at the horizon and see a minaret.

Side--Effect

Nov 22, 2012

Cool!

You're a bit more spiritual than I am. 

I still see a giant space-faring dong.

When the imam calls you to prayer will you face the big dick and pray to it?

 

Chaeddd

Nov 22, 2012

The Imam will have an office on the top floor and he will call the faithful to prayer with his cell phone.

Side--Effect

Nov 22, 2012

I hope he has conference calling on his subspace radio for when that sucker takes off and leaves our solar system.

dgbdc

Nov 22, 2012

^x4

So any tall skyscraper is a minaret.

The Empire State building was a minaret when it was built cause it was the tallest building in NYC and it tapered to an antenna on top.

Nevermind that the criteria are so generic that they could apply to a whole host of structures (1 is true of any major skyscraper, 3 is true of ANY fucking tower, and for tower-like structures if 2 isn't satisfied then 4 almost always is since a tower that doesn't taper off looks like a post), and that the Freedom Towers have no architectural elements that even vaguely look like they are inspired by any Muslim architectural tradition nor serves purpose at all approximating that of a minaret.

Incisive insight.

dgbdc

Nov 22, 2012

Double post

Chaeddd

Nov 23, 2012

It is where it is located. Muslims like to build a mosque and minaret near the site of a great Muslim victory.

Side--Effect

Nov 23, 2012

Operation Big Space Dick scientists chose the site because it's level, stable and amid other tall buildings so it wouldn't attract attention. 

 

trish6912

Nov 23, 2012

I too like the idea of it being a symbol of a giant dick.....

What9Thousand

Nov 23, 2012

Muslims like to build a mosque and minaret near the site of a great Muslim victory.

Turnabout is fair play; we carved some white guys' faces on a mountain in South Dakota (a spiritually significant site to the Lakota tribe, by the way) after we stole the natives' land, gave them Smallpox, and destroyed their culture and way of life. I don't think we really have any right to complain.

DrGeniusWiener

Nov 23, 2012

I wake up every morning and weep profusely about that, Mr. 9Thousand.

What9Thousand

Nov 23, 2012

I wake up every morning and weep profusely about that, Mr. 9Thousand.

I'm sorry to hear that. I don't, but I also don't care about the freedom tower.

DrGeniusWiener

Nov 23, 2012

I see.

I thought you might have cared enough to analogize it with the extermination of an entire culture.

In either case it's neither a minaret nor is it a religious or racial rorschach test.

It's simply a memorial structure to commemorate the destruction of the Twin Towers and the people therein. 

What9Thousand

Nov 23, 2012

I thought you might have cared enough to analogize it with the extermination of an entire culture.

No, I was comparing it to the extermination of an entire culture to point out that if Americans are going to take this asinine 'victory monument' viewpoint, they ought to just accept it, because their own culture has done the same thing, except in ways thousands of times more egregious.

DrGeniusWiener

Nov 23, 2012

Yeah but you just did it again.

It's a memorial for about 2000 people and billions of dollars of destruction from a terrorist attack that many considered an act of war.

President Barack Obama even had the guy behind it whacked by sending a special ops crew into a sovereign nation (without congresses approval I might add) to do it. 

None of this had anything to do with Little Big Horn or Wounded Knee btw. 

What9Thousand

Nov 23, 2012

It's a memorial for about 2000 people and billions of dollars of destruction from a terrorist attack. Many people considered it an act of war.

That's my point. It's not a monument to Islam or terrorism, and in order to adopt the stance that it shouldn't be built because it looks like a monument to Islamic conquest over the West, one also needs to adopt the stance that Americans shouldn't be building monuments in the US at all.

DrGeniusWiener

Nov 23, 2012

Americans shouldn't be building monuments in the US at all.

Personally I don't think it's construction need be taken out of geopolitical context whatsoever.

Analogies to the injustices perpetrated on Native Americans not withstanding.

 

What9Thousand

Nov 23, 2012

Personally I don't think it's construction need be taken out of geopolitical context whatsoever.

The only people bitching about the tower are hyper-patriotic scumbags. It's important to remember that historically, every culture shits on other cultures when it gets the chance.

DrGeniusWiener

Nov 23, 2012

I'm gonna have some hot chocolate.

rip59

Nov 24, 2012

Let the barbarian world implode. We'll be much better off for it.

If certain postees are infatuated with this way of life they can forsake their suburban lifestyle and join the pagans. Again, western society is much better to divorce ourselves from such undesireables. 

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