oneaussie

Sep 14, 2012

Your so bad you even delete yourself!!!

trish6912

Sep 14, 2012

Lol, exactly!!

Side--Effect

Sep 14, 2012

Well, I know someone who took the little gray heart and made a picture of THAT and used it, and even IT got flagged, lol:)

Did you see the recent story about the jury awarding one possible slimeball $40M from another dirtbag? The one giving away the $ was surprised that the award was so high. He was also surprised that his star witness took a dump on him. Infamy is not conducive to fairness.

My point is: we all know the guy with the little gray heart picture and he reaps what he sews.

oneaussie

Sep 14, 2012

Re pics and letting people post them "where ever" its called consistancy as i had said in our last thread but will say it again, you let the dogs in then its the cats, then its the tattoo's then its washing machine and dryer pics (yesterday) etc etc then you have facebook

And after all thats been let in, im sure someone will want porn stars and wrestlers pic's to be ok'd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again its a dating site , write about likes/dog/cats/tattoo's in your profile, then you and your date have something the talk about or share pics about while getting to know each other

 

** People also forget if you are so desperate to show violation pics, there is an option called ALIST, yes its a free site, but if you want to do something outside the guidelines, pay the man

BecauseItOwns

Sep 14, 2012

The plan moving forward with new Flagmods is that we're going to introduce a flagmod quiz/test in the same style as the questions upload test. It will have about 20 examples ranging from obvious to slightly tricky but all with a single most correct answer. If you pick the wrong answer, it will give you an explanation of why that answer was incorrect, likewise if you mark the correct answer, it tells you why it was the right decision.

There has long since been a call for something of this nature, and with the increasing number of new mods it's now being scheduled. This addition probably won't make it in until early December, but we are carefully monitoring flagmod trends, and will push it sooner if it becomes necessary.

 

@outasite:
The concern with only a pet in a main photos is that people can't actually get a sense for what you look like from a picture of your pet. It does affect people in a negative way over people with no photos, because you can easily filter people without photos out of your search results, whereas the same cannot be done with pet photos. You can instead simply be in the picture with your pet, which is completely ok, or put them in A-List albums. If people upload them anyway, the community is usually more forgiving as long as they are put at the bottom of the profile photos list, with plenty of other good pictures.

oneaussie

Sep 14, 2012

BIO an idea to stop some of b***sh*t regarding pics is to offer a cheap pic folder option (only) , say $2 monthly , yes there are a lot of cheap people who will complain about it but im sure a % might go for it, keeping less pics out of flagmod and giving another option other then alist

 

There was a discussion regarding a free pic folder, is that dead?

 

And if that happened, would'nt you lose a lot of alist customers?

 

****Thanks BIO , look forward to seeing the "test" do us old guys/gals have to take it or only newbies

BecauseItOwns

Sep 14, 2012

The vast majority of people who use A-List don't get it for the unlimited picture space. The idea of additional photo albums would be that regular users could upload additional photos, but not an unlimited number. That idea is still in the works -- we've been working on a lot of stuff so that particular feature isn't a priority.

Ceij

Sep 14, 2012

@CFB:

Here are some staff (and former staff) comments regarding how you become a "flagmod":

5-13-2011 by BecauseItOwns:

"You do not need 100% profile completion to become a flagmod. Becoming a flagmod is not an automatic process, we manually run a set of analytics to score the "flagmod goodness" of a user, and give the status to the top X%. We only run this when the flagmod queue starts increasing, meaning there aren't enough flagmods. We also occasionally remove flagmod status for people who abuse it."

9-22-2008 by MeghanBeres:

"You're not really supposed to 'understand' how to get flagmod access. It's just something that shows up for people who meet a certain set of criteria, about which we are Officially Vague for a number of good reasons, about which we are also Officially Vague. Sorry! :) MB"

@spookye:

"I'm getting really sick of mods who refuse to vote to delete pictures that clearly violate the guidelines on the grounds that 'the user has other pictures, so it's okay'."

You may want to consider the following staff comments:

9-9-2008 by melanarchy:

"Flagmod is not a failure because people make their own decisions about the rules, the entire purpose of the tool is to give the community a say in what stays and what goes.  some people will attempt to enforce draconian interpretations of the rules, others will be more liberal and that's the beauty of a system based on voting.  I encourage discussion among voters about what they like and don't like."

10-14-2008 by MeghanBeres:

"There's been no official change in the What's OK, but I do think it's worth considering that we're allowing more pictures than we used to, and that may cause people to use them differently. When you only had a few pics to give a lot of information, it was more important that they were all clear and of a specific type.

Re stuff like poi pics or whitewater canoeing or whatever, I'm big on considering context. If people have multiple face pics, and a clear body shot, they've made a good faith effort to represent themselves clearly. If they want to throw in an add-on shot of them doing something they love, I don't think that's likely to detract from anyone else's enjoyment of the site (which is, when it really comes down to it, what I get bent about).


If your only profile pic is of your dog or of you in tiny shadow-lit 'i-crush-your-head' profile walking on a beach a mile away, you're obviously obscuring your identity on purpose, and I don't feel bad about deleting your pic. But if you have lots of pics that give information about what you're likely to look on a date, I don't mind if you have a shopped one, or a hobby pic, or a costumed pic (this is gonna come up a LOT this month) or even (gasp) a pic showing off your tattoo."

3-10-2011 by BecauseItOwns:

"@oneratherrecent: I agree with almost all of what you wrote. The reason you're not "supposed" to have artwork, or pets, or MS Paint art on your face is because your pictures should give a pretty clear indication of what you look like. Ideally everyone would have those pictures, then it wouldn't matter if they had the aforementioned ones. Unfortunately this isn't always the case, but if you have artwork/pets/etc. then as long as there is a clear picture of you in each of those pictures, they are good photos. I would at least stick rule-breaking photos at the bottom so they only show up for people who want to see more pictures."

For what it's worth here's my opinion on all this:

I vote, in my humble opinion, the best interest of OKCupid. If the pictures suggest the user is a scammer (e.g. photos of internet porn models) then I vote delete.

If the OKC member just wants to post an extra picture of their pet etc. then I vote LA. Faces are not a requirement here so if the picture is just of say "CFB's legs" then I will vote LA since from her other pictures I have a pretty good idea of what she looks like if I saw her in public.

My intention is to build the community and the OKC membership. I don't want users leaving OKC because their picture of their beloved pet, their bike, or their legs, was deleted.

On the other hand, scammers and porn posters will drive users off so I don't have a problem voting Delete on those. I will also vote delete on a picture if say it's the only one and it is of a "flower" (or if all the pictures don't have the user).

As for my personal use of the site, I can always hide users that have pictures I don't like or that don't give me any information about what they look like.

I tend to be more liberal and others are more Draconian and that is OK. Flagmod is about the community setting the standards (within reason).

CornFedBlonde

Sep 14, 2012

@  trish6912  said:  <i>"Well, I know someone who took the little gray heart and made a picture of THAT and used it, and even IT got flagged, lol:)"</i>

Hmmm, you wouldn't be talking about me, would you?

The above happened to me back in late June when I was having a very difficult time on the journals and my postings and my profile was being stalked by DRB trolls....  I deleted ALL of my pics for a week or so and I copied the little gray heart, made it pink, tilted it 25 degrees or so and split it in two with a wide open jagged crack in the middle...   I had a "broken heart" 

 

Oh, and answer me this all of you old and wise FlagMods, just how are main profile pictures of users like PlaySerious (with the catscan x-ray) and B1ueBufellow (with his ubiquitous blue buffalo pics not showing himself)   continue to be allowed?   (update... I think that PlaySerious is gone now?... but his profile was up for a very long time with that x-ray picture as his main pic...  was it ever flagged?)

CFB

Side--Effect

Sep 14, 2012

 

CornFedBlonde

Sep 14, 2012

^   @   Wow, I wrote several intelligent paragraphs and stayed completely on topic... and now it is gone!!!  I guess that all of you FlagMods didn't like what I wrote...........  

Side--Effect

Sep 14, 2012

I wrote a question about how you were able to post an empty comment.

Then I found a way to do it.

Perhaps you did too.

Ceij

Sep 14, 2012

...Wow, I wrote several intelligent paragraphs and stayed completely on topic... and now it is gone!!!  I guess that all of you FlagMods didn't like what I wrote...........

No, it has to be a "glitch":

BecauseItOwns Apr 22, 2011

... I just checked, and forum flags are placebo buttons for the time being. The reasoning was that mods would have to review a thread in its entirety to determine what was actually going on, and it basically deteriorates into a flagfest among trolls.

Side--Effect

Sep 14, 2012

No, it has to be a "glitch":

Nope.

Ceij

Sep 14, 2012

Then I found a way to do it.
Perhaps you did too.

OK. Care to share how you accomplished this "feat"?

Added/edited after watching the "feat": OK you said "watch" then edited your message and now it shows a grey "quote bar". Note that CFB's post doesn't exhibit this.

Now your grey quote bar is gone. I've had glitches when posting with quotes etc. Sometimes I have to abort and start the reply/post all over again. I just call that sort of thing a "glitch".

Sorry I fell off topic. Now back to our regularly scheduled Flagmod discussion.

Side--Effect

Sep 14, 2012

 

Side--Effect

Sep 14, 2012

I highlighted, hit space, quoted, hit B & I and comment/update or something like that.

It was just a combination of things that one might do when posting, except for the highlight then space bar that eliminates the message.

CornFedBlonde

Sep 14, 2012

Why in the world would anyone want to purposely post a "blank"  comment on this forum???

I don't know why my thoughtful, intelligent and several paragraph long comment came out BLANK....   right after I posted the comment I got the "normal" box that said I have 10 minutes to update it then I came back about 15 minutes later and pooofff, it was GONE....

Based on what was said here, when posting a comment on the Forums, I am no longer going to use block quotes...  that seems to be the crux of the problem, well, at least in my one-off experience.

My comment, if I remember correctly, was regarding Trish's comment about the little gray heart being a "picture" when the profile has no pictures.    Back in late June... I was being hammered by the DRB Trolls on both my journals/comments and on my profile... getting nasty, disrespectful and insulting comments (even on non-controversial happy subjects not related to politics)  and being flagged for everything imaginable and also I had some romantic IRL issues that were not going well, so I deleted ALL of my pics and I photoshopped the gray heart into a pink heart, tilted it about 20 degrees or so and inserted a jagged crack vertically down the middle... essentially showing that I had a broken heart... well obviously that didn't stay up for long, it was flagged and deleted within a day...   as it should have been per the TOS and picture rules.

 

OK now, where do I sign up... someone put in a good word for me please.

 

CornFedBlonde

Sep 14, 2012

^  Oh, and before I get the comment "Why didn't you BLOCK them"

I did block them and they kept coming back with new temporary profiles with very minor changes in the their screen name....   finally the OkCupid Robot was alert and some of those gawd-awful troll profiles were deleted for good....   thank you Mr. Robot  ....  or is it  Ms. Robot???

Ceij

Sep 14, 2012

^^ There isn't a way to "apply" for Flagmod nor can you get flagmod access by others recommending you.

Basically, when the backlog of flags gets large enough, the OKC staff runs their "analytics" and gives flagmod access to those with the highest ratings. They haven't revealed what the criteria for those ratings is (nor do I think they will).

^ I'm pretty sure that the Staff Robot is androgynous ;)

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