StudMcRoughlove

Jan 27, 2012

I think ill go with the UN60D7000VFXZA.

Ill buy it one time. It will be fantastic as I have already done all of the research wand watched HD content on it.

smashingmayo

Jan 27, 2012

Nah. You can't tell by doing research, as I would have been done with it half a year ago if thatw as the case. They all keep giving me issues. It's not even about how good the picture looks on them. Only two of the eleven has really looked mediocre or worse. And no matter what you buy it';s not going to be great in all regards when it comes to led. Then plasma blows away led in most areas, but sucks in brightness outpuit and also whites look not so white.
Idntlikeudork3

Jan 27, 2012

Well, you do have a lot of experience in that area, so you know what you're talking about! In regards to things being dumb, I mean. In case you needed me to spell it out.
StudMcRoughlove

Jan 27, 2012

Then plasma blows away led in most areas

When you say things like this you do understand that people think you are full of shit about all of this right? They put the LED TVs on the endcaps for a reason genius, you always put your best foot forward. If what you were saying was true putting the new LED TVs right up front would keep people out of the flat screen section, not draw them in.

Nah. You can't tell by doing research

So looking at the TV in person at several different local stores and reading user reviews on multiple sites, is not worth it?

It worked great last time, I have had the same 50 inch LCD for 3 .5 years now, still looks great. Technology has created a gap now though, time to upgrade. I will make the right choice the first time just like I did last time with the same process.

smashingmayo

Jan 27, 2012

k. Go on some HDTV forums and tell them led is better than plasma in picture quality. LED sets sell more often because 1. people are dumb enough to value the smaller size over picture quality and 2. people spreading false info.
StudMcRoughlove

Jan 27, 2012

k. Go on some HDTV forums and tell them led is better than plasma in picture quality.

No thanks, ill just side by side them and decide for myself.

1. people are dumb enough to value the smaller size over picture quality and 2. people spreading false info.

Or, maybe, LED TVs look amazing. Seriously, these are things anyone can confirm for themselves IRL, why would they need a forum?

Burgh42

Jan 27, 2012

FFFFFFFFFFFFfffffffffffffffffffffffff.....


Either of you, just wikipedia this stuff.

 

Advantages

  • Picture quality
    • Capable of producing deeper blacks allowing for superior contrast ratio[6][7][8]
    • Wider viewing angles than those of LCD; images do not suffer from degradation at high angles like LCDs[6][7]
    • Less visible motion blur, thanks in large part to very high refresh rates and a faster response time, contributing to superior performance when displaying content with significant amounts of rapid motion (though newer LCD screens have similar refresh rates, but that also introduces the soap opera effect). [6][7][9][10]

[edit] Disadvantages

  • Picture quality
    • Earlier generation displays were more susceptible to screen burn-in and image retention, recent models have a pixel orbiter that moves the entire picture faster than is noticeable to the human eye, which reduces the effect of burn-in but does not prevent it.[11]
    • Earlier generation displays (circa 2006 and prior) had phosphors that lost luminosity over time, resulting in gradual decline of absolute image brightness (newer models may be less susceptible to this, having advertised lifespans exceeding 100,000 hours, far longer than older CRT technology)[5][8]
    • Screen-door effects are noticeable on screen sizes smaller than 50in, effect is more visible at shorter viewing distances.[12]
  • Other
    • Use more electricity, on average, than an LCD TV.[13]
    • Do not work as well at high altitudes due to pressure differential between the gases inside the screen and the air pressure at altitude. It may cause a buzzing noise. Manufacturers rate their screens to indicate the altitude parameters.[14]
    • For those who wish to listen to AM radio, or are Amateur Radio operators (Hams) or Shortwave Listeners (SWL), the Radio Frequency Interference (RFI) from these devices can be irritating or disabling.[15]
    • Due to the strong infrared emissions inherent with the technology, standard IR repeater systems cannot be used in the viewing room. A more expensive "plasma compatible" sensor must be used.[citation needed]

 

smashingmayo

Jan 27, 2012

You sure use wikipedia a lot when you're wanting to back soemthing up. You know it's not all correct. Even in this case it's not all correct because people have taken general terms and written it there as if it's fact. Studloser can say whatever he wants, but this is yet another topic I know mroe than him about as I've bought 11 tvas and had them right here to see in a home environment and I also researched it more than he has. As far as picture quality plasma easily wins. I already mentioned that brightness and whites are not as good. Although honestly led tvs are TOO bright, even on the lowest possible contrast settings. So it's justa s bad and inaccurate anwyay, but in the opposite direction. Burn in is exaggerated and rarelty happens anymore. Also blacks are not always better in plasma. So nothing is really accurate when people try to label everything as always happening. The best blacks of any set are in led sets actually ads afr as the top few sets, but in GENERAL blacks are better in plasma.
smashingmayo

Jan 27, 2012

Also anyone else get a ncie laugh at stud using sales numbers as his "proof" and then he says eh doesn't care what others say, only his own comparison?
Burgh42

Jan 27, 2012

So you are saying that I use and link reputable references in discussion, instead of just going on and on with unfounded personal claims that can't be checked at all?

 

Yes, that's true.

 

 

Not that I was backing anything up anyways.

 

GOOD DAY, SIR!

StudMcRoughlove

Jan 27, 2012

Also anyone else get a ncie laugh at stud using sales numbers as his "proof" and then he says eh doesn't care what others say, only his own comparison?

I listed the easiest and most universal way to be specific about the TV I selected.

People can look that number up and read reviews. People can go to the store and compare that TV to others of similar type (all big shops carry it).

I am sorry I did not use multiple long winded posts filled with total BS as you are accustomed to.

We talked about this once before mayo. Truth needs few words to be told while total BS needs pages and pages of text walls.

smashingmayo

Jan 27, 2012

Man your post is a lot of pages there.

On topic, I am getting pissed at how many companies make it where Game mode will NOT allow you to change sound to anything except dynamic/surround. Pathetic. the point of game mode is to cut down on lag and not elt you enable thigns that will kill you with lag again. Sound has nothing to do with the type of lag they're trying to eliminate and stupid DYNAMIC sound woud be WORSE than standard even if it did have an effect. So the idiots make it where I have to either have a lot of lag or have inferior sound as the dynamic sound on the Sonys is terrible. And getting speakers and using those instead won't help much because I want a subdued sound for anything except movies. Thos morons are barely smarter than stud.
StudMcRoughlove

Jan 27, 2012

while total BS needs pages and pages of text walls.

Man your post is a lot of pages there.

I like how even when you have the ability to quote the post directly above, you still fail.

On topic, I am getting pissed at how many companies make it where Game mode will NOT allow you to change sound to anything except dynamic/surround.

When it comes to flat screen sound you have to concede 2 points.

  • Compared to all of the devices you will connect to a receiver and 5.1/7.1 setup (including the flat screen TV), the sound is not the big expense.
  • Flat screen TVs simply are not of the physical size to create optimal sound.

When you accept this, it is not a surprise that TV sound is not a priority for the manufacturers.

I bought a minimal 5.1 setup and a HDMI receiver. I connected the blu-ray, media center PC, game systems and DH cable to the receiver and then to the TV. I disabled the TV sound, ran the survey and synchronize function of the receiver once and was 100% ready to go for the next 3.5 years.

If you know what you are doing this really is not a difficult process. I expect that like everything else you do not listen to anyone and prefer to do things the way you feel is right.

If I was wrong about this, you would be happy with your TV and sound with very little hassle. HDMI really made things easy enough that a caveman could do it.

smashingmayo

Jan 27, 2012

Guess you didn't read. As usual. i said I was amd it was forcing it into dynamic mode. I did not complain about the audio in standard mode. Nothing to do with the speakers and all to do with Sony being Stupid.
StudMcRoughlove

Jan 27, 2012

Guess you didn't read. As usual. i said I was amd it was forcing it into dynamic mode. I did not complain about the audio in standard mode. Nothing to do with the speakers and all to do with Sony being Stupid.

I mentioned a receiver, this allows you to take 100% control over sound. If you are not in control, you are not set up correctly.

StudMcRoughlove

Jan 27, 2012

I would like to add that when talking to people about their HD setups and weather or not they are happy the vast majority that are happy use a receiver and dedicated sound while the vast majority that are unhappy connect their components directly to their TV (this does include speakers connected directly to their TV).

smashingmayo

Jan 28, 2012

Yawn. 1. I don't care what a receiver does. That's not related to my point. My point is how much worse this particular tv is in dynamic and how I can't change it to standard in game mode. 2. It's whether, not weather. 3. It will be funny if just due to not wanting to admit I know more than anyone here about tvs you will purposely buy a worse one just to believe you're rebelling against my advice. lol If you were to buy the Samsung it would be great in "most" ways, but it has a lot of probs that the picky videophiles can't stand. I haven't seen people complain about the plasmas of theirs though. The best plasmas are the D7000 and D8000, but not the led versions. Plus most led flagship models are way overpriced in most places.

Anwyay, now yet another thing I don't understand is with led sets it's harder to see things the same distance away when compared with regular lcd and plasma. Somehow things are blending together where thigns don't stand out from each other as well. I thought higher contrast abilities make it where thigns stand out MORE easily. But somehow it's not the case for me so far. I don't know if it's due to not enough color saturation or what, but it's annoying. I think the led sets aren't putting as much "substance" into the picture. With both other types it's a rich deep picture and with led it seems like it's not. Or more specifically led sets with glass screens.

Again, though, if anyone here is looking for a tv and doesn't mind edge lit led the Best Buy deal is a great deal and I assume ends after today. The 46nx720 and narnia kit for $999. This model is CNET's editor's choice even ahead of the expensive hx929. I have also tried the hx820 and this nx720 is mighty similar, yet less expensive. I would just rather not have edge lit if i can help it.
StudMcRoughlove

Jan 28, 2012

1. I don't care what a receiver does.

I stopped reading there, anything after that is pointless as you do not even understand why your HD experience has been so shitty.

smashingmayo

Jan 28, 2012

Idiot.
StudMcRoughlove

Jan 28, 2012

Idiot.

We know you are, buying and returning 97 TVs because you fail to grasp the basic technology is very idiotic. I can just picture all of the advise you have been given in this process that you have completely ignored. It also would also not surprise me if you are not even running an HD signal to these TVs, a setup that will look like crap 100% of the time and only gets worse as TVs get better.

Let me ask a question that we all know the answer to already and we all know you will refuse to answer but will be fun to watch you squirm none the less.

If you know what you are doing, why are you returning so many TVs?

 

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