If you were going to have a daughter, which sexual orientation would you hope she would have?

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MrBitterMan

Jan 22, 2010

If my daughter was gay I'd send her to Jesus Camp with all the other gay sinners. That'll teach her.

voroscsepel

Jan 22, 2010

If my four-year-old daughter started to speak to me about her sexual orientation, I'd give my little angel a spanking she'd never forget.

Kelver

Jan 23, 2010

Straight...  She'd have to get fat, a buzz cut and wear torn up farmer's clothing, it's only required of most female homosexuals.  I couldn't be proud of her...

RickMH

Nov 17, 2010

@RickMH:

I don't think you really understand what homosexuality is...

Actually...I understand it completely well, as my sibling went through the very situation I described in my previous post. I went through all the stages with her for several decades. Perhaps you don't understand as well as you'd like to think you do.

Karenqr

Nov 17, 2010

Aaaaand now I've lost another chunk of faith in humanity. Thank you internet.

I'd want my kid to be happy. Bring home a girl, bring home a boy, bring home a 120 pound Bull Mastiff. Bring home all three at the same time. I answered that it doesn't matter...and it doesn't. The problems I've had in my life probably won't be my daughters. Any hypothetical child of mine will have all new prejudices to deal with and I hope they can do it better than I have mine. 

I'd want a gay son though. I want the T-shirt. 

polar_eyez

Nov 18, 2010

@RickMH:

Good for you. You must recognise that your sister's experiences are not everyones, and not definitive of the journeys of everyone in the queer community.

Homosexuality is a very different issue to gender dysphoria. Most people do not choose to undergo sex-reassignment surgery because of whether they're attracted to men or women; they choose to do so because they themselves do not feel as though their genitalia reflect their identity.

If your sister was gay, and identified as trans, that's great. There are a lot of people who are gay and feel as though their genitals are entirely appropriate. There are people who are straight and feel as through they're not. There is a wide variety of combinations of gender and sexuality.

I don't mean to downplay the importance of your sister's experiences and identity, nor to invalidate them in any way. I hope she found a way to reconcile her identity and find a lifestyle which suits her. Hers is not the definitive case. There is no definitive case.

Calithir

Nov 18, 2010

For my own sake, it wouldn't matter.  I'd love her regardless.  But gay people have to put up with a lot of shit in this ass backwards country due to the number of redneck morons, so for her own happiness, I'd hope for straight, and do my best to provide support in any other situation.

sing_le

Nov 20, 2010

You don't have to be a redneck moron to understand that same-sex sexual relationships are ridiculous.

Karenqr...so happiness from whatever source is equally legitimate?Why not just stay on a euphoric IV 24/7 at that rate?

terrasauce

Nov 20, 2010

lol why the hell would you "hope" your child is anything. hoping they turn out gay is no better than hoping they turn out straight. it's arguably worse

tcuflynfrog

Nov 20, 2010

I would prefer her to be straight, but if she turned out to be lesbian...oh well. Would love her the same.

Ghost_of_Summer

Nov 20, 2010

You don't have to be a redneck moron to understand that same-sex sexual relationships are ridiculous.

Everyone has their kinks. I'm sure some people would find whatever deviations from the norm you have in your heart to be ridiculous.

Ghost_of_Summer

Nov 20, 2010

Oh, and I'll have one of each.

Gimmikk

Nov 20, 2010

God I see sing_le is still obsessed with gays. I thought you were straight?

Karenqr

Nov 22, 2010

Sing_le I could answer you literally and say that most drugs lose effectiveness over time and therefore happiness through chemical dependency isn't a realistic way of gaining happiness...However that's arguing biological crap that I don't care about. I do think most of the world would benefit greatly from any one of several antidepressants delivered intravenously. As long as the kid could pay for her own medical bills and sticks to medically regulated drugs I could love her, IV drip and all. 

Zōroástrēs

Nov 22, 2010

I think I'd rather she be bi.

vanaheim

Nov 23, 2010

Any young person I'm associated with for any reason receives the obligatory benefit of whatever I can bring to bear to ensure freedom of choice, empathy to assist making comfortable choices and support for any consequences of those choices. What, you people don't believe in democracy?

First thing I'd advise them is not categorising themselves, but to be themselves and for chrissake, be original in your life. Nobody likes a vampire. Make up a new sexuality called "mysexuality" if the subject is of the slightest bother, we'll even make a tender of it, do a study and get a control group and shit.

 

polar_eyez

Nov 25, 2010

@sing_le:

Being a redneck moron does correlate, though.

You've made the potentially valid observation that happiness from any source is not always healthy. For example, happiness imparted by dangerous and highly addictive drugs would not be good, and I would strongly advise against it.

What you've failed to provide is a reason why same-sex relationships are not a valid source of happiness. If the relationship is healthy and constructive, why is this any less valid than an opposite-sex pairing?

Is it simply the possibility of babies? What would you then say to an opposite-sex couple who do not want children? I would say that the same-sex couple is probably more valid in this case, since their interactions do not carry the risk of unwanted pregnancy.

Your position relies on vague allegory and the hope that people will not look closely enough to spot the flaw. You've provided no reason to object to same-sex partnerships except for your own discomfort. Given the number of people who disagree with you, it is clear that the reasons are not so obvious, so please provide them so we all may consider them.

ataraxia-

Nov 25, 2010

what makes sing_le's comment really funny is the fact that he basically wants his girlfriend to be a living sex doll. that's totally okay, but homosexuality is ridiculous.

i recommend not thinking about his hypocrisy too much. your head might implode.

polar_eyez

Nov 28, 2010

His position is ridiculous. Inanimate sex dolls are easier to maintain.

empirestv007

Jan 14, 2011

The question is topical, because there is a new medical procedure that can detect lesbianism early on in the fetus as its developing.  The procedure or drug used can theoretically alter the fetus to make it less likely the female fetus becomes lesbian and less feminine as she develops.  Question being: if you had the choice, would you consider such a procedure if there were no other risks to the fetus? Science is not on the side of the gays.  Soon, it will be made available the orientation of the fetus before it is born and thus more selective abortions will take place.  Drugs will be produced that will change the orientation of the fetus as it develops.  The ability for parents to design their children will become more common.  So, yes this question is topical.

Obviously, for me personally I would hope she were straight so as to advance an heir.  I am not one of those traditional folks that only cares about heirs down the male line.  I see both the male and female sides of the lines as equally valuable. Often this puts me at odds with my Pro-French position in the 100 years war. 

 

 

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