rip59

Nov 26, 2012

I need guidance.  Seems like the reublicants have joined the demogogues with the war on the successful.  Before robin from the hood and his merry men commence. I do have several questions.

1. Just what is it that makes anyone a member of the heavily taxed evil rich?  What's the cut off?  I'll make that and stop working.  Thanks.

2. What pray tell is your/my "fair share"?

3.  Who determines that amount?

4.  Will "they" ever get enough?

Just how much of my earnings can I keep for myself and family?  Do you feel comfortable giving me that info? Oh, and how many times do you plan to tax me on that money?  once? twice?  As many as 4 times maybe.  What about the 50% of non-payers?  Feel good about that one?  Do we actually have a revenue problem?  or perhaps a spending problem?  Just askin.  Hmmmmmm.  

trish6912

Nov 26, 2012

We do have a spending problem. We spend like 3 times as much as the rest of the world combined on "defense".

There's no "war" on the successful. Taxes on the wealthy have been lowered and are the lowest they've ever been. Meanwhile the debt has risen at the same time.

 

Coincidence much?

Burgh42

Nov 26, 2012

rip59

Nov 26, 2012

Show me your links!!!!!  Incidently, yes, I agree about 1/2 of our $ is spent "defending" others.  Phuck em.  The war on the successful has become so drastic that the brain drain is obvious.  The rich and talented will soon be conveniently absent.  Whom will they "rubber hose" for their goodies then?

rip59

Nov 26, 2012

History?  What history?  Just tell me what you want to take.  I'll retire.

trish6912

Nov 26, 2012

Click on Burgh's link. It shows the history of tax rates being lowered over time.

 

Lol, where is John Galt!!!

Hahaha....

Side--Effect

Nov 26, 2012

The Beatles did your protest better.

If you want lower taxes contact your right wing reps and tell them to quit spending on wars, border fences and the prison economy. Those are the things that they can cut without a fight or compromise. There are probably more.

Until then, just pay for what you bought with your vote.

trish6912

Nov 26, 2012

Whew!!

 

 

I was beginning to believe Obama invented taxes.......

rip59

Nov 26, 2012

Not invent; re-invent.  Remember Elinski was his man crush model.

trish6912

Nov 26, 2012

"It's the end of freedom as we know it!!!"

DrGeniusWiener

Nov 26, 2012

Suggested reading: Henny Penny

MsOtis

Nov 26, 2012

I was beginning to believe Obama invented taxes.......

Mayo will be here soon to confirm that this is actually true, history books not withstanding.

 

rip59

Nov 26, 2012

Suggested reading:  A Wealth of Nations.  And yes, of course anything by Ayn Rand.  Yanno, it becomes more and more evident that people remaining in the workplace are just stuck, not wanting to be there.  Working for and paying the man more and more.  For most of  folks that seems acceptable.  Is it because they feel their lot in life is so dismal that they are content to be a pawn in hussain's scheme.  Are they so loaded with white guilt that they are content to let hussein sodomize them? Has class envy devoured their sense of right / wrong?  Whatever the case it's obvious that main stream society is owned and operated by statists.  The brain drain has started.  Such as when hitler took Germany ; barry is taking our land.  National Socialism once again has returned.  People with a conscience, means and financial where with all will be abruptly leaving the accident scene. 

Side--Effect

Nov 26, 2012

National Socialism once again has returned.  People with a conscience, means and financial where with all will be abruptly leaving the accident scene.

Meanwhile in the real world: status quo.

 

Burgh42

Nov 26, 2012

 

"... anything by Ayn Rand."

You mean that Russian hypocrite?

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.  — John Rogers

 

...it's obvious that main stream society is owned and operated by statists.

False.  It is owned and operated by robber barons.

 

 National Socialism once again has returned.

Oh, I see OP didn't comprehend my EARLIER LINK.

 

 

OP should start yet another thread.

 

rip59

Nov 26, 2012

Oh, it was comprehended ; just not taken too seriously.  What you fail to grasp , sir, is this:  the "obamunists"  will soon have no one left to rob.  I'm sure swisse investors will welcome our assets with open arms and balance sheets free from guvmint meddling.  Carry on comrades.

Side--Effect

Nov 26, 2012

I'm sure swisse investors will welcome our assets with open arms and balance sheets free from guvmint meddling.  Carry on comrades.

If you knew anything about money you'd know that Swiss banks are effectively branches of the IRS, just like US banks. Carry on prole.

rip59

Nov 26, 2012

False, Cat.  Get some links.  Suisse investors have and will be offering tax avoidance strategies as long as despots like hussein exist.  Also Caymans are cool.  Certain strategies for selling land can still apply.  Being "morally" sold without guvmint coercion.  No, Cat, we are far too  clever for the kumbaya squad to steal from us.  The one advantage we have over the libs is elitist arrogance has made made the opposition blind.  My relatives were successful in hiding their wealth from the nazis of 1940.  I will be equally successful in 2013.   

Burgh42

Nov 26, 2012

 

"Oh, it was comprehended ; just not taken too seriously."

Ah, so yours was purposeful ignorance.  I see.

 

"What you fail to grasp , sir, is this:  the "obamunists"  will soon have no one left to rob."

Why did you spell "congress" that way?

Oh, right -- fear-mongering.

 

The wealthy are paying lower income taxes than they ever have. 
(1924-1931 excluded.)

Only fifty years ago they were paying ~3x their current rate.

Robber-Barons continued to exist just fine.

The Walton family, Koch bros, etc. aren't going anywhere.

Even if their taxes are tripled.

Even if their investments are taxed appropriately.

 

Congrats on being a ignorant shill for the uber-rich. 

I say "ignorant" only because you seem to not realize that you bought into their "socialism!" schtick.

 

Perhaps the OP would prefer that we do away with the federal income tax.

Shall we go back to Excise Taxes?

$20/gal milk?  $10 loaves of bread?

 

Cornelius Vanderbilt, J.P. Morgan, and J.J. Astor would approve

that you would rather be ruled by kings!

 

OP should start yet another thread.

Burgh42

Nov 26, 2012

 

"False, Cat.  Get some links."

Says he who never presents any.

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