kgraham0503

Mar 10, 2010

Has anyone got an email about new mobile for Okcupid but it's not working?

pkostas

Mar 10, 2010

Ops wrong thread, sorry.

sfguyyy

Mar 10, 2010

 

What is not working?  Which device do you have?

 

moncheriekc

Mar 24, 2010

I have a blackberry, and the mobile version refuses to work. Can't seem to figure out why.
Makadoshe

Mar 24, 2010

okcupid mobile version does not support forums. F that jazz.

hugehank

Mar 24, 2010

My phone keeps saying "enable JavaApplet to continue". I never un-abled it.

 

Dumbass instructions

CleopatrasNeedle

Mar 24, 2010

My mobile tells me some shit about certificates when I try to log on. I can't reply to messages either :(

serenewaffles

Mar 24, 2010

I cannot even get my mobile to direct itself to the mobile page. It just keeps going straight to the main full-featured version.

sfguyyy

Mar 24, 2010

 

moncheriekc wrote:  I have a blackberry, and the mobile version refuses to work.

 

Many Blackberries (especially before OS 5.x) have pretty crappy default browsers.  The quickest solution is to install Opera Mini (direct OTA install link), which works fine w/ OkCupid. (either the mobile site - which it will display by default, or the regular site - which like any complex site on a tiny screen is going to be a pain, since you will have to zoom and scroll a lot)

 

Makadoshe wrote:   okcupid mobile version does not support forums.

 

That is correct - unfortunately since the percentage of OkC users that use the forums is pretty small (~<5%), it probably wasn't deemed a good use of development resources or screen-space to implement that.  You can still use the full site version if you have a good browser on your mobile device. (Would probably be pretty painful unless you have a pretty large screen though)

 

hugehank wrote:   My phone keeps saying "enable JavaApplet to continue". I never un-abled it.

 

OkCupid itself does not require java. (it does require javascript, which is something entirely different)

Sounds to me that you have a phone that uses Java to run the web browser - this is similiar to what goes on when you install Opera Mini on a Blackberry.  But I've never seen such a message.  Which device is that?

 

CleopatrasNeedle wrote:   My mobile tells me some shit about certificates when I try to log on. I can't reply to messages either :(

 

Which device, and what exact wording?  I've seen a similiar complaint before on a relatively simple Samsung phone.  Are you saying that you are ultimately able to login anyway?

My current theory with the certificate warning is that since OkCupid is using an encryption certificate issued by a relatively "new" certificate authority root provider (Go Daddy), these phones aren't recognizing it as legit because they haven't yet imported that CA into their "approved list" yet.

In layperson terms, if your device has an option to "approve this certificate authority" or some similiar wording, try checking off that option and see if it helps.

 

serenewaffles wrote:   I cannot even get my mobile to direct itself to the mobile page. It just keeps going straight to the main full-featured version.

 

What device?  I may be able to help workaround that issue, depending on how configurable the device's browser is.

 

serenewaffles

Mar 25, 2010

Turns out my problem was SkyFire. For some reason it was not properly notifying me that a mobile version of the page existed. Switching to Opera Mobile 10 fixed that problem.

sfguyy wrote: OkCupid itself does not require java. (it does require javascript, which is something entirely different)

This is untrue. Java and Javascript are nearly identical. Their similarities go as far down to actually coding them; they both are written in the same language. The difference is that Java is designed to run standalone in a Java Virtual Machine and Javascript is designed for Web pages, where the browser will interpret and run the code.

CleopatrasNeedle

Mar 25, 2010

^^ The wording is:

Server Certificate

Server Certificate of issuer is not found

CN:www.okcupid.com

CN: Go Daddy secure certification authority

My phone is a Comeback Samsung. I can log on I just have to click ok to that message about 5 to 10 times. It's not much of a problem it's just irritating.

...since OkCupid is using an encryption certificate issued by a relatively "new" certificate authority root provider (Go Daddy),...

Hehe, I was wondering what "Go Daddy" meant.

I'm also having trouble with switching the original page to the mobile version. Everytime I click the link it doesn't do anything.

sfguyyy

Mar 25, 2010

 

serenewaffles:  This is untrue. Java and Javascript are nearly identical. Their similarities go as far down to actually coding them; they both are written in the same language.

 

You have no idea what you're talking about, other than the fact that perhaps they were both written in the English language.  :P

Javascript (actually now that name is deprecated as the current standard is called "ECMAscript") is a client-side script language (ie like VBscript), developed by Netscape, and was not even called Javascript to begin with - it was originally called "LiveScript".  They changed the name mostly for marketing reasons.

Java is a full-fledged programming language like C++ that is typically compiled to bytecode before being run, and was developed by Sun.

While some syntax in Javascript/ECMAscript is similiar to Java, they are two very different animals.

Which is why, and I repeat, OkCupid requires  javascript/ECMAscript on the browser to function properly (particularly with the non-mobile version of the site), while it does not require Java in any way whatsoever, as one does not have any relation to the other.

 

wikipedia:  "A common misconception is that JavaScript is similar or closely related to Java; this is not so. Both have a C-like syntax, are object-oriented, are typically sandboxed, and are widely used in client-side Web applications, but the similarities end there. Java has static typing; JavaScript's typing is dynamic (meaning a variable can hold an object of any type and cannot be restricted). Java is loaded from compiled bytecode; JavaScript is loaded as human-readable source code. Java's objects are class-based; JavaScript's are prototype-based. C is their last common ancestor language.

Nonetheless, JavaScript was designed with Java's syntax and standard library in mind. In particular, all Java keywords are reserved in JavaScript, JavaScript's standard library follows Java's naming conventions, and JavaScript's Math and Date objects are based on classes from Java 1.0.
"

 

 

sfguyyy

Mar 25, 2010

 

CleopatrasNeedle wrote:   My phone is a Comeback Samsung. I can log on I just have to click ok to that message about 5 to 10 times. It's not much of a problem it's just irritating.

 

Yep, so the issue is pretty much what I suspected.

Now that a lot of people are trying to use the web on very simple mobile devices, this kind of thing will start to become a bigger and bigger issue.  In a "full sized" web browser you can easily work around these issues, but most of the handheld devices simply don't include that sort of configurability.

(Although on the PC platform, some "major" browsers like Apple Safari and Google Chrome don't even write their own encryption-handling components, they actually rely on the same "CryptoAPI" written by Microsoft that is used by Internet Explorer.  This is why they are sometimes vulnerable to security problems and other bugs that afflict Internet Explorer, if the problem originates in Microsoft's encryption library and functions.)

 

sfguyyy

Mar 25, 2010

I'm also having trouble with switching the original page to the mobile version. Everytime I click the link it doesn't do anything.

 

I would use the feedback link at the bottom of any page here to report that as a bug.  Make sure you mention exactly which device you're using that is suffering from this problem.  Thanks.

 

Cherryberry23

Mar 27, 2010

My phone used to work with the main site but now I only get as far as the login screen and I put in my details (which work fine on a pc) and it asks if I'm happy being directed to another site, I click yes, it then warns me that there are non secure items, I click ok and then I get a white screen and then I get booted back to the login screen. Its very frustrating as it means I can only use the site from a pc, which I don't have access to very often. (I have already sent and email about this to the feedback section but haven't heard anything)

sfguyyy

Mar 27, 2010

 

Cherryberry23 wrote:  My phone used to work with the main site but now I only get as far as the login screen...

 

In the interest of better security, the site is now encrypting the login credentials when logging-in, but I believe there are some side-effects such as those you describe here.

I have some inquiries in to the staff about it, we'll see what happens..

 

hugehank

Mar 27, 2010

OkCupid itself does not require java. (it does require javascript, which is something entirely different)

Yeah, it was javascript now that I think of it, but it doesn't do that anymore. It only did it for a day or so, and I didn't change my phone settings at all, which tells me it's the site and not my phone.

sfguyyy

Mar 28, 2010

 

...which tells me it's the site and not my phone. 

 

Yep, sounds like a transient issue, could be related to specific page state at the time, cookies, cache, etc etc.

 

 

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