smashingmayo

Jan 21, 2013

Everyone tells me to use firefox and look what it keeps doing to me. Keeps reversing my caps lock! IE ftw, again.

Anyway, it is very sad how racist society has become now. Tons and tons of african-americans celebrating Obama being re-elected. They admit it's due to him being black. It's "history". It's sad that on MLK day they go totally against his wishes as they still see race first.

Also, when's the last time you've seen these huge celebrations for ANY president other than Obama? This is flat out racist worship. Many of them say they're Christians and are going against that as well by worshiping someone. So they go against MLK and God, as well, it appears.

Do all of you other people think it makes you "cool" and proves you're "not racist" if you celebrate someone elected due to the color of his skin? All it does is PROVE you're racist. I don't need to lie that I am excited about Obama like most of the various white people. I already KNOW I am not racist and don't need to lie about liking Obama, in a desperate need to convince others. What's funny is most of us who do not support Obama have way more black friends than you morons who lie that you like him.

vERY SICKENING ALL OF THIS MONEY WASTED ON PARTIES AND CELEBRATIONS WHEN NO OTHER pRESIDENTS HAVE MANY PEOPLE CARE. hE'S A MAN, YOU LSOERS. hE HAS FAILED NEARLY EVERYTHING HE'S ATTempted. oh ok now when editing my caps lock works again. Well isn't that interesting. But anyway yeah you're all ridiculous for worshiping someone who fails and can't compromise.

Rodney69

Jan 22, 2013

For you to have black friends implies that you have friends. So obviously you're lying.

I don't like Obama, but you're still an idiot.

rip59

Jan 22, 2013

Strange how these young postees make race such an issue.  If you were to ask successful people of color ie. Allen West, Nicki Haley, Bob Jindahl etc.  These folks think claims of racism are hilarious.  Personally, I would love to see a black man innaugerated to the presidency.  We just have the wrong black man.  How about Allan Keyes?  So you see, it is not a question of color it remains a question of ideaology.  Let's talk reverse racism.  Let's talk about racism against the afore mentioned people of color.  I'm noticing black people are not hated but conservative black people MUST go to the back of the proverbial bus.  Futhermore, if MLK were alive today he would be a libertarian.  Just heard a great interview with Mr. King's cousin stating abortion has killed more black babies than any white lynch mob could dream of.  Good point Alvida.

Nyamuk

Jan 22, 2013

rip59

Jan 22, 2013

I think we can all concurr that the entire spectrum of "worker's rights" has drastically changed since the days of Martin King.  Would MLK support mandatory union membership?

Ah, what kind of law are you planning to practice maam?  

Nyamuk

Jan 22, 2013

Nobody advocates mandatory union membership. That's illegal. 

There are those who require those who are represented by unions to pay for that representation.

Are you saying you support governmental interference in a contract between workers and companies?

rip59

Jan 22, 2013

Mandatory union membership is now illegal in about 26 states.

Oh, and yes, being an x-teamster ; I resented my dues going to democrats.  Mr. King would not approve of such draconian bully tactics.

Interesting point, your question regarding government intervention in contractual agreements can be once again found in the "Steel Seizure" case.  Also used recently for precedence in barry's recent use of EO's.  The government lost and President Truman was unable to use an EO to intervene in using steel for the war machine.  

Nyamuk

Jan 22, 2013

Mandatory union membership is illegal in 50 states. 

In non right to work states, you can be forced to pay agency fees as a condition of working at that particular company, in order to compensate the union for having negotiated your contract for you and representing you. You cannot be forced to be a member.

Even agency fees are contingent on your choosing to work at a particular workplace. If you don't want to pay them, you are free to find another job.

rip59

Jan 22, 2013

Agency fees are semantics.  Check out definitions of open /closed shops.  Why does freedom of choice only apply to infanticide in the lame left wing mind? What would happen if I told the business agent to take his agency fees and go pound sand?

 

Probably get the livin shit beat out of me in a blind alley. 

Nyamuk

Jan 22, 2013

Closed shops have been illegal since 1947. I think that's something one learns in 9th grade history.

And did I just hear a "conservative" say that a person has a "right" to a particular job? That he ought to be able to whine to the government to interfere in the private contractual relationship between a company and a union? 

If you're seriously comparing the right to bodily autonomy to the "right" to work in your chosen profession, in your chosen workplace, you are seriously mistaken as to the existence of this second. Basically what you're saying is that an employer should not be allowed to fire an employee who chooses not to perform a condition of his employment. 

You have no right to any job absent a contract. If you do not agree with the terms of the contract, you cannot work there. Pretty simple.

smashingmayo

Jan 22, 2013

haha. typical liberal nyamuk is. Changing the subject. Again, people are racist for wanting Obama in, in most situations. I see today Rush pointed out the same thing. That the ONLY thing people keep celebrating is "the history of a black man being in office". All they care about is his color. They go totally against MLK's speech's goal. He said people should be judged NOT by their color. Yet people are praising and celebrating SOLELY due to Obama's color. Hypocrite racists.

Nyamuk

Jan 22, 2013

Nah, I think people are celebrating not having Mitt Romney as president. Hell, any real conservative would also celebrate that we don't have to deal with four years of that moron. Of course perhaps they'd rather have Ron Paul or Gary Johnson, but you can't always get what you want.

rip59

Jan 22, 2013

Incorrect.  I am saying we should not be fired for abstention.  You knew that.  We started TDU Teamsters for a Democratic Union for just such purposes.  Trucker drivers are not democrats.  We should be fired whenever the hell the employer wants to let us go.  You're only as good as your last day.  Actually, I've retired but the dysfunctionality of union dominance lives on.

Nyamuk

Jan 22, 2013

Paying agency fees is a condition of employment, just like wearing a uniform or showing up on time. The employer has the freedom to set whatever conditions of employment they feel best for their workplace. Abstention is failing to fulfill a condition of employment. If you do not fulfill a condition of employment, you can be fired. 

I actually know some organizers in TDU, they seem like a good group, and I'll be the first to say that unions screw over workers at least as often as employers do. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of your position: saying you're a libertarian and then saying that the government should tell employers what conditions of employment they can or cannot set.

smashingmayo

Jan 22, 2013

nyamuk, wrong as usual. They are celebrating him being black. That is what they keep saying and that it's "history". That has nothing to do with Romney. All these people are saying yay a black eprson is Pres. Now next election when someone says yay we have another white one, the same idiots will call it racist and the NAACP will demand people be executed, most likely.

Nyamuk

Jan 22, 2013

I'd rehash my explanation for why reverse racism isn't a thing but you wouldn't listen and would probably just resort to personal insults.

smashingmayo

Jan 22, 2013

haha. there is no "reverse" to it, dummy. racism is racism. I see you're braiwnashed into believing racism is white on another race. That is not the definition of racism, genius.

rip59

Jan 22, 2013

Well, all right then.  You are correct about several issues, employees are getting screwed by their unions  ; big time.  Paying dues for a $9 an hr job is BS in anyone's world.  Yours or mine.  I did not like Mitt.  To left fiscally and too right socially.  Yes, Paul and Johnson were the logical choices.  Ah, question, if private sector workers can bargain collectively sans unions and government intervention , why not?  Agency fees are a condition through a union hall ; employers would care less.  Who writes the checks? Incidently union membership in US has severely decreased.  Expensive dues for nothing more than magazine subscriptions is why. 

Nyamuk

Jan 22, 2013

I totally support private sector employees banding together on their own. But, the thing about grassroots collective bargaining is that once a group of workers is organized enough to be recognized by the employer and enter a CBA, they tend to become a union. 

pseupseudio

Jan 22, 2013

most brands these days don't use american workers for production

the freedom to unionize would be incredibly useful to the people in factories wherein our goods are actually made.

 

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