KelleyMen

May 24, 2010

As the title asks.  If I have a user blocked and that user sends me a message, will the system inform the user that he is blocked from messaging me?

I'm also a bit perturbed that "reject & block" from one's journal does not seem to work the way it used to, but that's a different question.  I may just send feedback on that one.

So does anyone know whether blocked users get told, if they try to contact you?

derelict2010

May 24, 2010

Blocking doesn't work anyway, messages still get through.

1945

May 24, 2010

^I have noticed this. What's up with that?

DiscoJer

May 24, 2010

It amuses me when people actually expect features to properly work on this site.

But to give a possible rationale for it: like everything else that doesn't work correctly, or how logic would dictate, it does it because they know what's good for you, better than you do. So clearly you shouldn't have blocked these people in the first place.

sfguyyy

May 25, 2010

  

No, people don't get a message that they are blocked.  The message just doesn't get delivered. There's actually a good reason for that. 

Re: journal blocking, has the person you are trying to block wrote you any email messages?  Have you wrote them any email messages?

If so, try deleting all emails to or from them first, then try blocking them again.

You can verify if blocking "took" by checking your email and/or IM blacklists afterwards. (Settings page - link in left margin) Make sure you refresh the page as sometimes it doesn't update immediately.

 

Eeyore wrote:  It amuses me when people actually expect features to properly work on this site.

 

It amuses me how some people who can't seem to find anything positive to say about a dating website insist on logging in to that site every-single-day to write bitchy comments about it.  Get a life.


KelleyMen

May 25, 2010

No, people don't get a message that they are blocked.  The message just doesn't get delivered. There's actually a good reason for that.

 

What is the reason?

Thanks for the tips about "reject & block."  When I used it once a while back, I did notice that the person automatically went on my IM and Message blacklists as well as being blocked from the journal.  Well, I surmised that the person was successfully blocked from the journal, because I never got another comment from the user.  In that case there were no messages from the user in my Inbox.

I also once blocked directly from one of the buttons on a message in my Inbox, and that seemed to effect a comprehensive block too.

I wish there were a setting for journal blocking, just as there are such settings for IM and Message blocking: then one could do the block in advance, if one wished, and never get the unwanted comment, just as one can already do with messages and IMs.

ChameleonDave

May 25, 2010

There should be an option to give or not give a notification.  If you’re shielding yourself for a possible bad reaction after rejecting someone, then there should be no notification.  If someone is being seriously nasty, they should realise they are being blocked, rather than be allowed to think the other person read their last message and wasn’t clever enough to think of a comeback.

sfguyyy

May 25, 2010

 

Apparently the architecture that seems to reject a block if emails from/to them are in your inbox, is to mitigate a situation where someone mistakenly clicks on a button and blocks one of their buddies. Apparently the thinking is, if there is an email from/to them, they're automatically whitelisted because they might be your buddy. (Personally I'd just like to have personal control over that, not to mention, I often wish to save emails from aggravating/abusive people so I have proof of their actions, or to refresh my memory about them as needed.)

I agree it would be nice if there were an interface to control journal blocking.

Re: the reason why a blocked person doesn't get notified: OkCupid is a free site where setting up a profile does not require detailed personally-identifying information.  It also takes something like 1-2 minutes to setup a new profile.

Despite the fact that it's against site policies to have more than one active profile, certain determined asshats will just create new accounts as a way of getting around a persons block of their other profile. If you send them an immediate "you're blocked" notification, it just increases the likelihood they'll get stupid about trying to circumvent a block.

The fact that people can easily and relatively anonymously create accounts here exacerbates that problem.  Unfortunately, the competition in this field (free dating websites) often markets their site on the basis of how quickly and easily a profile can be created, so OkC is sort-of between a rock and a hardplace from a competitive point of view if they create lots of hoops to jump through for a new account to be created.

As for sending a distinct message to someone who's being a jerk, we're all adults here.  I think a person can do better than a system-generated "you're blocked" message if they really want to let a person know they're being a jerk.  The usual procedure is to send a reply telling them they're being an asshat, then block them right after.

HTH

 

sfguyyy

May 25, 2010

 

Oh and KelleyMen:  Are you really in Cameroon?  Hiding from someone?

People with fake profiles, profiles without pics, or profiles with bunches of fake info in them don't tend to get much respect from clueful people here.  Among other things, those people probably get blocked a lot more than the norm.

 

 

KelleyMen

May 25, 2010

Well, I have no knowledge of my being blocked by anyone, nor have I given anyone reason to do it.  I mind my manners.  There are a couple of people, though, who made me question my privacy and security on here, to put it kindly, and whom I adamantly wish to avoid now.  Hence my desire to be fully able to understand and make use of the block features.

sfguyyy

May 25, 2010

Thanks for the explanation.

 

dgbdc

May 25, 2010

Hai gais, I'm an iodiot.

 

That said, we're clearly not talking about the filters on our profiles here, right?

And we're also not talking about the "Hidden Users" list either, no? Being a hidden user doesn't prevent messaging in either direction...

Or are we biotching about how blocking people doesn't complete severe them off from us as though they are DEAD, DEAD TO ME

 

?

sfguyyy

May 25, 2010

dgbdc wrote:   ...we're clearly not talking about the filters on our profiles here, right?

 

We're talking about blocking, not filtering.

Filtering only applies to email, where you can set parameters for different characteristics of a profile that have to be present, if not the message is still delivered but is listed/displayed as "filtered".

Whereas with IM, using similiar profile characteristics, you can completely block a person from IM'ing you.

With email, you can also completely block a user, but only by profile-name. (ie, you cannot block anyone between the ages of X and Y, or with a match % below 70.  You can however filter with those parameters)
 

 

And we're also not talking about the "Hidden Users" list either, no? Being a hidden user doesn't prevent messaging in either direction...

 

That is correct.
 

 

Or are we biotching about how blocking people doesn't complete severe them off from us as though they are DEAD, DEAD TO ME

 

Even when they called "hiding" people here marking them "Dead to Me", it didn't do that.

My personal opinion is that if you make it easy for people to completely hide from certain others, it will only magnify the sociopathic nonsense that some of them will engage in, and make it harder to monitor their destructive activities.

 

i_am_WonderWill

May 28, 2010

Ok got a question about the blocking thing...

I removed somone from my FAVS and pressed the hide button. We then worked stuff out and I undid everything, put them back on my favs and unhid them. Now here is the continuing problem she is having.
When I IM her she can see it... when she IM's back it saws "Will went missing." What is the reason and/or fix for this??

I also get that on some other favs that I have tagged and for some reason that same message pops up with their username went missing...

let me know please

I_am_wonderwill

 

sfguyyy

May 28, 2010

 

i_am_WonderWill:  Sounds to me like you probably BLOCKED them originally, instead of HID them.

If they are blocked, they won't be able to IM you, and may receive those "went missing" messages if they try.

Please click the Settings link in the left margin, go to both the Messages and IMs tab, and make sure their username is not in your "Blacklist options" list.

 

i_am_WonderWill

May 29, 2010

Yep Sf,

I saw that in my settings right after I sent it. Too bad I HAD to undo it! :)

wacka wacka wacka!

 

 

skiian_VT

Jun 22, 2011

Does anyone know if you block someone on IM if they can still send you an email? or does that email just get ignored like the IMs will?

sfguyyy

Jun 22, 2011

Check your settings page, and under both email and IM tabs there is a "blacklist options" link/page.

Blocked users should show up there. I THINK by default that a blocked IM user is blocked from emailing, but it's been so long since I've touched that I can't remember, and the system design could have changed 10 times since then...

 

 

dieterina84

Oct 25, 2013

ChameleonDave, exactly, thank you, those are exactly my words. There should be a choice given. I WANT the person to know he/they was/were being blocked. Not that I would give a damn what they think about me, but I still would prefer if they knew.

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