niceonagoodday

Feb 16, 2013

It seems that some abhor the word.  It's a pretty ridiculous argument, in my opinion.  


"...the word "panty" can be grimace-inducing—and there are a few possible reasons for that." 

If you don't agree, picture your father or grandfather. Now picture him saying "panties." I admire the woman who doesn't shudder."

Sounds a little sexist if you ask me.  Grandmother saying "panties" is fine, but if Grandpa mentions it?  It's suddenly creepy and shudder-worthy.  

The fact that the word is a diminutive form of "pants" (and therefore infantalizing) is a rather weak argument.  It really sounds like a lot of flap over absolutely nothing.

 

shoegal71

Feb 16, 2013

I like panties.

It's "emotional tampon" that I find disturbing.

wutsthishere

Feb 16, 2013

I'm fine with "panties".

but I can't wrap my mind around "liver and onions".

shoegal71

Feb 16, 2013

Because you're supposed to put them in your mouth, silly.

niceonagoodday

Feb 16, 2013

^^^Agreed: That is disturbing.

wutsthishere

Feb 16, 2013

^^NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

Sushibitch

Feb 16, 2013

It really sounds like a lot of flap over absolutely nothing.

So... why post about it? I mean, I dunno, when I see people talking about something I don't care about, what I do is leave them to it, and get on with something I _do_ care about. What I don't do is make a song and dance (or a forum post) about how they're talking about something that doesn't matter to me.

Sounds a little sexist if you ask me.

Oh, poor menz, being totally oppressed there because it's more weird when your grandfather talks about panties than when your grandmother does; so sad.

No, seriously, dude, that's such a silly argument. I'm quite sure there are some things you'd be more uncomfortable hearing from a man than a woman; a discussion about (male) masturbation for example, or about male sexual health. There are contexts where a man's input _is_ creepy where a woman's isn't (there's a whole discussion on one of the other forums about tampons versus cups, where Men Are Having Strong Opinions, for example, which, just, like, what the actual fuck?).

The fact that the word is a diminutive form of "pants" (and therefore infantalizing) is a rather weak argument.

It sounds weak to you because men aren't constantly and systematically infantilised; in particular, their sexuality isn't systematically infantilised. But that's really just a very blinkered, short-sighted view.

shoegal71

Feb 16, 2013

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wutsthishere

Feb 16, 2013

dammit Shoe! I just made popcorn!

shoegal71

Feb 16, 2013

now can I haz popcorn, pls?

wutsthishere

Feb 16, 2013

sure.

butter?

DrGeniusWiener

Feb 16, 2013

I like panties.

wutsthishere

Feb 16, 2013

this is relevant.

ThatCharmsChick

Feb 16, 2013

Better than B00tyth0ng, amirite?

RickMH

Feb 16, 2013

The article in the OP makes one wonder how the term ever came into common usage. 

smashingmayo

Feb 16, 2013

The reason nsert hates the word so much is she is a feminist and feminists live in this warped world where there is no such thing as masculine vs. feminine and it's seen as a weakness to use words associated with femininity.
DrGeniusWiener

Feb 16, 2013

Well it's certainly nothing to get your leotard in a twist over, Mayo.

niceonagoodday

Feb 16, 2013

I see Sushi took the bait.  I knew one of the resident feministas wouldn't be able to resist.

 I'm quite sure there are some things you'd be more uncomfortable hearing from a man than a woman

Not really, I'm an adult, therefore topics like sexuality don't "creep me out."

It sounds weak to you because men aren't constantly and systematically infantilised

Actually, they are: you see many men portrayed on TV and in movies, advertisements as "helpless" around the house without women...as if it were impossible for us to operate a fucking mop without the help of a competent female.  Your argument (and the article's) is bullshit.

their sexuality isn't systematically infantilised.

Oh, really?  Do you mean perhaps how men are portrayed and treated as if our minds were solely focused on sex and couldn't possibly do anything else productive with our time because we're sex-obsessed idiots?  Like that?

My whole point with this post is that it's pretty fucking silly to get all bent out of shape over a word that is derived the way it should be: panties are small pants that go under your clothes.   The inappropriate meanings and "degradation" are being mis-attributed by a hypocritical sub-culture of people who see ghosts of oppression everywhere except that which is propagated by their own hands.  (Sound like anyone in this thread?)

There is plenty of real, meaningful oppression and injustice going on in this world.   Maybe spend more time working to alleviate that than trying to control the thoughts of everyone around you?

ExtremeDating

Feb 16, 2013

I felt a great sense of personal freedom after I'd abandoned religion.

I felt an even greater sense of personal freedom after I'd stopped giving mere words more power than they deserve.

Currently in the process of abandoning middle-class morality so I can follow my dream of becoming a skilled assassin.

unassuming_guy

Feb 17, 2013

I'm not very certain that GONAD knows the actual difference between literally and figuratively.

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