RicoTaco

May 8, 2009

Why exactly is the man expected to pay? Just because he asked her out? What about when I invite all my friends out? Do I have to pay for all of them because they agreed to come? What about women who are just friends? Why don't I have to pay for them? Why does the "possibility" of SEX make it necessary for a man to cough up money? Are most women just prostitutes?
Eek-A-Mouse

May 8, 2009

Are you a tosser?
ThePragmatic

May 8, 2009

How do you get the yoke out without cracking the egg?
What9Thousand

May 8, 2009

Because we live in a sexist society. What an easy question to answer.
JohnnyTheFox

May 8, 2009

I once took a girl to a nice, expensive restaurant and when the bill came at the end of the night, we made a run for it.
It was the sexiest date ever, no question.
ThePragmatic

May 8, 2009

Why do men protect the women? Why don't the women protect the men?
Tarragon81

May 8, 2009

Usually if you are trying to impress a woman, you will be obligated to pay first. Oh yeah.. and don't run out of gas in your car.

As for friends, in my experience I believe it's safe to go dutch.

As for group dates.. obviously you should pay for the direct person you are taking.. at least for the first date. This doesn't mean that you're obligated to pay for EVERY date you go on. Take turns or dutch it after the first and/or second time. Watch out for GD's and materialistic 'It's all about me' wenches.
lovingfun9

May 8, 2009

dutch is fine. it makes the date neutral and there is no obligation at the end of the night.
ThePragmatic

May 8, 2009

Why do the women and children go first? How come the man doesn't go first!
Kat_307

May 8, 2009

I never expect a guy to pay on the first date. I like to keep it equal, buy each other a drink, go halves on food etc.
RicoTaco

May 8, 2009

"ThePragmatic" I know you're being sarcastic.. but those are all serious questions. Making fun of this topic is no different than making fun of racism. "Why do blacks have to be slaves? Why not whites?" You are almost acting as if these stupid rules are OK just because they exist. Maybe slavery was ok too.
ThePragmatic

May 8, 2009

I'm making a point. Not being sarcastic. When you get the point let me know.
ThePragmatic

May 8, 2009

Also slaves and natural animal instincts are not the same frigging thing.
constantjourney

May 8, 2009

The answer is ultimately going to come down to some variant, either heavily camouflaged in rhetoric or thinly-veiled and explicit, of "because she wants him to." Though there's also the "because he wants to" variant. In my case, I treat non-dates and dates alike, so I (usually) don't have to get a headache over this one... thank goodness.
What9Thousand

May 8, 2009

If your question is, "Why is the male expected to pay for the first date?" the answer is, "Because we live in a sexist society."

If your statement is "The male should not be expected to pay for the first date," my answer is, "I agree." I only date people who are going to pay for their own food.

ThePragmatic, is it your natural animal instinct to pay for your date's meal? Because it's not mine.
psuedoplacebo

May 8, 2009

I usually try to go dutch. We're getting further and further away from a Traditionalist society and gender roles are changing. Dating in itself is changing as well as people's views on paying.
RicoTaco

May 8, 2009

"ThePragmatic" What does animal instinct have to do with buying a meal for someone?
TwinReverb

May 8, 2009

I think it is just a custom that manages to hang on from earlier times when men were either the only wage earners or made substantially more than their female counterparts. Nowadays women make as much, if not more than many of the men they date. I have no problem paying if I do the asking but once a couple of dates pass without even an offer to share the costs I begin wondering whether she feels entitled to it.
ThePragmatic

May 8, 2009

^^ Because it's just natural alpha male dominance over women. It has existed since life began. The male is suppose to be the financial land owning tough guy that protects his woman and children. Have you ever read any history at all?
constantjourney

May 8, 2009

^ RARRRR me strong, me buy salad. Kidding :)

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