Apr 14, 2009 10:08pm

I'm Looking For A Sub Can Be Online At First To get To Know Eachother Even Friends I Believe Submission is a gift of trust of the body mind and soul... i'm am a sensual dom in the meaing im not all about the pain though pain sluts are welcome to reply i rather it be sensual and pleasure than nothing but pain.. i'm an experienced dom and have been looking for a new sub... if anyone is interested please let me know and message preferably female...

Apr 14, 2009 10:15pm


Apr 15, 2009 4:33am

Normally I stay away from the whole 'grammar nazi' thing, but for the love of expletive use smoe more punctuation. Or page breaks. Page breaks are nice.

I actually can't tell if this post is serious or someone trying to use some kind of ironic parody.


Apr 15, 2009 4:39am

I'm wary of anyone who's 20 considering themselves an "experienced dom".

Is that silly of me?


Apr 15, 2009 4:44am

i was thinking the same thing tool

Apr 15, 2009 4:46am

never. i'm also wary of an "experienced dom" who lacks common grammar and spelling skills

Apr 15, 2009 5:49am

i call bullshit

Apr 15, 2009 5:51am

Eh, to be fair, age and dom experience are only lightly related. It all really depends on how much one has done their thing and how much energy they have put into learning how to do it well. Many kinksters do not start until fairly late in life so a 40 year old might have the same amount of experience as a 20 year old. Crow, when I was 20 I already had more experience then many of the 'lifestylers' I meet today who are in their 30s and 40s.

Thought to answer New_Tool_SN more directly. Actually no, I don't think it is silly. But it is probably more rooted in general assumptions about age/maturity/experience then anything else. Many females in general tend to have trouble seeing males younger then them as authority figures or sufficiently mature simply because of their relative age.

Conversely, notice how people tend to flock to the experienced 20 year old fsubs (and then fawn over them, telling them how mature and experienced and above their peers the girl is). At a deep level, young females are considered superior to older females and older males are considered superior to younger males and this perception bubbles up in subtle ways all over the place.


Apr 15, 2009 6:05am

At a deep level, young females are considered superior to older females and older males are considered superior to younger males and this perception bubbles up in subtle ways all over the place. I agree with that because a young female is more likely to not be as jaded from life as an older woman and allow Him to have a cleaner "canvas" to mold. For older males I think their experience and understanding of the emotional piece is something learned over time and I just don't see how someone who is 20 would have enough life experience/emotional understanding that is required. I still call bullshit.

Apr 15, 2009 6:21am

*I'm wary of anyone who's 20 considering themselves an "experienced dom". Is that silly of me?* No, most 20 y/o's aren't experienced at anything...

Apr 15, 2009 6:38am

His definition of "experienced" may be different than what people assume it to be. Generally speaking there is more experience to be had with more time, but in actuality it is the experiences that matter. On the other hand you have to consider the age and hormones of a younger man and his desire to accomplish such sexual acts. He may have experience, but with what level or intensity he does not disclose, nor how many times, what he's used, etc. It is all subjective, but he may think that by labeling himself as "experienced" he might have more success. After all it is not easy to find a good sub, or someone willing to train as one. He may not present himself as the best dom, as the lack of grammar and structure of the paragraph may lead you to believe he has a lack of discipline himself. There is no need to dissect his post, he is young and experimenting, and it is not easy nor is it even too rewarding to have to post this request. Being a dom is already frowned upon by people in general, be nicer and try to give him some constructive criticism. An experienced sub could help him more than a few degrading posts ever could.

Apr 15, 2009 6:46am

I like your compassion, Tommy.

Apr 15, 2009 6:49am

Well, I'd make a terrible sub, so at least I break *that* mold.

Apr 15, 2009 7:02am

Thank you uppnights2. The world lacks a lot of compassion so I try my best to be fair and open minded towards everyone. It is not much fun to be disliked for what you like to do even if it does not effect other people. New_Tool_SN, with an open mind and some training I am sure you could be molded into a very good sub :)

Apr 15, 2009 7:09am

No, the point is, I don't *want* to be a sub. I despise authority.

The thought of willingly being told what to do makes my stomach turn and my skin crawl.


Apr 15, 2009 7:12am


Age often leads to wisdom, but it is far from automatic. It all depends on what someone has done with their time. I've met plenty of people in their 40s, 50s, 60s, who seem to have learned NOTHING since they were 14 but are solidly convinced they have it all figured out simply because they have aged. In a way I am actually more suspicious of older doms because they more often then not start with the belief that because of their age they have magically learned all they need to know and are less likely to correct mistakes or assumptions.

As people get older it becomes increasingly difficult to find ones willing to adjust to new inputs which can be a VERY bad thing in a scene..... I see lots of 'cookie cutter' approaches to doming in the older crowd.. the idea that all subs are essentially the same and if a sub's needs are different then something is wrong with them because XYZ has worked on others.

Apr 15, 2009 7:18am

shenanigans! and ur also str8

Apr 15, 2009 7:19am

Eh. You know, this website is a bad place to look for something like that, and this is an even worse way to go about it. Women who are looking for men on this site already have loads of options. Posting a sloppily-written ad isn't going to make you stand out from the masses of men asking for the same thing, especially not on this site.

Man, every time I even see a craigslist ad from some middle-aged, mediocre, & clueless male dom looking for a "hot" young thing to be his "cum slut", I just snicker to myself.

He actually thinks that attractive, young female bottoms & subs have such a dearth of sexual opportunities that they'll feel the need to seek out random, not-so-sexy internet dudes they don't know? Ha! He actually thinks he'll find this girl on craigslist (if you're going to look online for a specific kind of sex, look on fetlife. Or even better, seek out people in meatspace - play parties, clubs, etc.)? Double ha. Teeheehee, indeed.

Maybe I'm just biased, though, because I tend to hate straight male doms, as a general group of human beings, even though I like having sex with them on rare occasions.

Apr 15, 2009 7:44am

^I don't know who you are but I think I love you.

Apr 15, 2009 7:54am

Is "Lord Rivethead" any relation to the British spoof-politician "Lord Buckethead"?

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