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How To Write To Women On OkCupid

Author's Note: If you like and/or agree with this post, please feel free to repost it anywhere! It applies to all internet dating/social networking and it can't hurt to spread good advice, right?

How To Write To Women On Okcupid
by TC

Let us begin by stating one thing: by "women" I am not including bimbos, trixies, webcam whores, and people with an IQ of less than 3 digits. Yes, there are some females out there who will fuck you no matter what an idiot you are. Even more will string you along and take your money. We're talking about women WORTH approaching.

That being said, there are several basic principles on how to write to women AND get them to write back.

1.) Read my profile, and write a letter to me PERSONALLY, from scratch.

No form letters. We can tell. It's insulting. We won't bite.

example: "Hey my name is Matt 25m livin in lakeview. 5'10 168 lbs brown hair blue eyes. I think I'm a pretty fun guy, I like to go out, have a few drinks, hang out party. I like sports, baseball hiking outdoors stuff like that LOL the one downside just to be honest i do smoke sorry if that bothers u anyway if you'd like to hang out sometime let me know."

First of all, you don't need to tell me your weight. It's amazing how many guys do this. What do you think I'm going to say? "Oh, I only date MIDDLEWEIGHTS. It's a good thing you let me know you're a light heavy ahead of time." I don't need to know anything about your physical appearance, actually - did you know your photo pops up by the side when I open your email? In fact, not repeating the generalized, key-word ridden summary of your profile is a really solid tactic. If I wanted to know that, I could click through myself. The above email is effectively a spam broadcasting of your profile. Try to say something different, maybe personal? If you'd read my profile, you would know I specically don't care for "baseball, hiking, outdoor stuff LOL." Reciting them again just serves to prove that you couldn't even be bothered to read my profile. It makes me think you're not a real person, but a spam bot. Do you think every close-up picture of an ass that friends you on myspace REALLY wants to be your literal, actual friend?

Better example:

"I noticed you really like Heinlein... what's your favourite book of his?"

It doesn't have to be some giant essay. I understand that when so many emails recieve no reply, it seems a waste of time to compose lengthy, thoughtful letters. Don't. Overly lengthy letters can seem creepy and stalkerish at first, anyway. Just pick one personal trait or interest and make a specific comment, followed by a specific question to encourage reply.


2.) Say something ORIGINAL.


example:

"Hey how r u. u sound like a fun gal. well ne ways i'd like to get to know u so if youd like to know more about me or chat sometime hit me back.

peace"

Notice something: you don't sound like a fun guy. I don't want to know more about you.

You sound like a faceless, mindless, unidentifiable zombie droning "msg me... msg me..." I might as well make friends with the automated phone menu machine. Try to think of something specific that I would enjoy about you and suggest it.

better example: "I've always wanted to learn tango. Do you swing? I'll teach you to swing if you'll teach me to tango."

ps: though it is excellent strategy to cultivate a hobby, such as social dancing, that a majority of girls will be eager to try with you, if you don't have any such catch-all party trick prepared, never fear. Search my profile for ANY interest we may have in common and suggest we do that. Failing that, suggest we do something goofy, non-sexual, fun and kind of ridiculous like building a pillow fort. If we have no common interests and can't have fun doing nothing in particular either, this is clearly not meant to be and you should move on without wasting your time.

3.) Don't compliment me.

Not on the first letter. Just don't. It sounds like senseless flattery, an overt, "Nice shoes, wanna fuck?"

example: "WOW baby u r so hot just WOW."

Don't tell me I'm hot, cute, pretty, amazing, awesome, fun, sexy, interesting, or any generic positive trait to be sought in a mate. I know you want to date and/or fuck me. Why the hell else are you writing me on OKcupid? You have plenty of time to compliment me later, when you have given me a reason to care what you think. Most women can't be bought straight off the bat with senseless flattery. Those who do hoard compliments from any and every stranger are so insecure and neurotic you won't want to deal with it when their fragile ego explodes in a rush of jealous neediness after you DO fuck them.

example 2: "I must say, you are a fascinating and intelligent woman. I would love to get to know you."

Even proper grammar can't save this one. It's still "nice shoes, wanna fuck?" dressed up. If you are smart enough to write in complete sentences, try putting some worthwhile content into those sentences.

better example: "What kind of gaming are you into? I just bought a new Myst-type and was looking for some people to crack into it with."

Notice he avoided urge to say "That's so awesome that you're into gaming!" Just try to talk about something, anything, without actually blathering about how great it makes her.

4.) If it's not working, drop it.

Annoying her more is not going to make her like you. The moment you think it's not going somewhere, just drop it. Drop it early, drop it preemptively. I'm not saying be rude or give some ridiculous "I think we should stop talking," speech. Prolonging conversation by discussion how it should be over is ludicrous. Don't talk about how you should shut up, just shut up. You won't lose anything by being reticent. If she did like you, she'll send the next im.

5.) Use whole words.

This is not a phone. You will not be charged if you go over 160 characters.

6.) Don't talk about what you are looking for in a relationship.

A necessary component of every relationship is mutually wanting one. It's putting the cart before the horse to start working out the rules of your relationship before you've figured out if you like each other enough to talk.

7.) Avoid sexual comments of any sort.

If I have to explain why, this "dating real people" thing is not going to work for you. Go buy a prostitute. Seriously.

Conclusion

Treat women like people, with personalities. Yes, sex and dating is a factor, but for the vast majority of people, it's not the first factor. Do something to make yourself stand out and give her a reason to want to talk to you personally. Take the time to observe her (hint: READ HER PROFILE) and actually discover if you have good reason to believe you'll get along: you will write far less emails, but you will get far more responses from those you do write to.

If you want a whore, buy a whore. This is how to talk to people.

Good luck.
Author's Note: If you like and/or agree with this post, please feelfree to repost it anywhere! It applies to all internetdating/social networking and it can't hurt to spread good advice,right?

How To Write To Women On Okcupid
by TC

Let us begin by stating one thing: by "women" I am not includingbimbos, trixies, webcam whores, and people with an IQ of less than3 digits. Yes, there are some females out there who will fuck youno matter what an idiot you are. Even more will string you alongand take your money. We're talking about women WORTHapproaching.

That being said, there are several basic principles on how to writeto women AND get them to write back.

1.) Read my profile, and write a letter to me PERSONALLY, fromscratch.

No form letters. We can tell. It's insulting. We won't bite.

example: "Hey my name is Matt 25m livin in lakeview. 5'10 168 lbsbrown hair blue eyes. I think I'm a pretty fun guy, I like to goout, have a few drinks, hang out party. I like sports, baseballhiking outdoors stuff like that LOL the one downside just to behonest i do smoke sorry if that bothers u anyway if you'd like tohang out sometime let me know."

First of all, you don't need to tell me your weight. It's amazinghow many guys do this. What do you think I'm going to say? "Oh, Ionly date MIDDLEWEIGHTS. It's a good thing you let me know you're alight heavy ahead of time." I don't need to know anything aboutyour physical appearance, actually - did you know your photo popsup by the side when I open your email? In fact, not repeating thegeneralized, key-word ridden summary of your profile is a reallysolid tactic. If I wanted to know that, I could click throughmyself. The above email is effectively a spam broadcasting of yourprofile. Try to say something different, maybe personal? If you'dread my profile, you would know I specically don't care for"baseball, hiking, outdoor stuff LOL." Reciting them again justserves to prove that you couldn't even be bothered to read myprofile. It makes me think you're not a real person, but a spambot. Do you think every close-up picture of an ass that friends youon myspace REALLY wants to be your literal, actual friend?

Better example:

"I noticed you really like Heinlein... what's your favourite bookof his?"

It doesn't have to be some giant essay. I understand that when somany emails recieve no reply, it seems a waste of time to composelengthy, thoughtful letters. Don't. Overly lengthy letters can seemcreepy and stalkerish at first, anyway. Just pick one personaltrait or interest and make a specific comment, followed by aspecific question to encourage reply.


2.) Say something ORIGINAL.


example:

"Hey how r u. u sound like a fun gal. well ne ways i'd like to getto know u so if youd like to know more about me or chat sometimehit me back.

peace"

Notice something: you don't sound like a fun guy. I don't want toknow more about you.

You sound like a faceless, mindless, unidentifiable zombie droning"msg me... msg me..." I might as well make friends with theautomated phone menu machine. Try to think of something specificthat I would enjoy about you and suggest it.

better example: "I've always wanted to learn tango. Do you swing?I'll teach you to swing if you'll teach me to tango."

ps: though it is excellent strategy to cultivate a hobby, such associal dancing, that a majority of girls will be eager to try withyou, if you don't have any such catch-all party trick prepared,never fear. Search my profile for ANY interest we may have incommon and suggest we do that. Failing that, suggest we dosomething goofy, non-sexual, fun and kind of ridiculous likebuilding a pillow fort. If we have no common interests and can'thave fun doing nothing in particular either, this is clearly notmeant to be and you should move on without wasting your time.

3.) Don't compliment me.

Not on the first letter. Just don't. It sounds like senselessflattery, an overt, "Nice shoes, wanna fuck?"

example: "WOW baby u r so hot just WOW."

Don't tell me I'm hot, cute, pretty, amazing, awesome, fun, sexy,interesting, or any generic positive trait to be sought in a mate.I know you want to date and/or fuck me. Why the hell else are youwriting me on OKcupid? You have plenty of time to compliment melater, when you have given me a reason to care what you think. Mostwomen can't be bought straight off the bat with senseless flattery.Those who do hoard compliments from any and every stranger are soinsecure and neurotic you won't want to deal with it when theirfragile ego explodes in a rush of jealous neediness after you DOfuck them.

example 2: "I must say, you are a fascinating and intelligentwoman. I would love to get to know you."

Even proper grammar can't save this one. It's still "nice shoes,wanna fuck?" dressed up. If you are smart enough to write incomplete sentences, try putting some worthwhile content into thosesentences.

better example: "What kind of gaming are you into? I just bought anew Myst-type and was looking for some people to crack into itwith."

Notice he avoided urge to say "That's so awesome that you're intogaming!" Just try to talk about something, anything, withoutactually blathering about how great it makes her.

4.) If it's not working, drop it.

Annoying her more is not going to make her like you. The moment youthink it's not going somewhere, just drop it. Drop it early, dropit preemptively. I'm not saying be rude or give some ridiculous "Ithink we should stop talking," speech. Prolonging conversation bydiscussion how it should be over is ludicrous. Don't talk about howyou should shut up, just shut up. You won't lose anything by beingreticent. If she did like you, she'll send the next im.

5.) Use whole words.

This is not a phone. You will not be charged if you go over 160characters.

6.) Don't talk about what you are looking for in arelationship.

A necessary component of every relationship is mutually wantingone. It's putting the cart before the horse to start working outthe rules of your relationship before you've figured out if youlike each other enough to talk.

7.) Avoid sexual comments of any sort.

If I have to explain why, this "dating real people" thing is notgoing to work for you. Go buy a prostitute. Seriously.

Conclusion

Treat women like people, with personalities. Yes, sex and dating isa factor, but for the vast majority of people, it's not the firstfactor. Do something to make yourself stand out and give her areason to want to talk to you personally. Take the time to observeher (hint: READ HER PROFILE) and actually discover if you have goodreason to believe you'll get along: you will write far less emails,but you will get far more responses from those you do writeto.

If you want a whore, buy a whore. This is how to talk topeople.

Good luck.
How To Write To Women On OkCupid
An image of sharper00 Excellent list and it works for any gender not just women. Guys get the "hay ur cute lemme kno if u wanna chat" type messages too.

I am pretty amazed at how many people completely ignore profiles on here. I mean there's very little else with which to work so you'd think "read the profile" would be the absolute minimum.

sharper00 commented on

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Don't tell me I'm hot, cute, pretty, amazing, awesome, fun, sexy, interesting, or any generic positive trait to be sought in a mate. I know you want to date and/or fuck me. I love that one. Have never thought about it, but I don't usually reply to people who tell me I'm hot, fun or sexy. So either there's something else wrong with their emails or it's a subconscious defence mechanism ;)

tiggerwoman commented on

An image of NewbieToThis 6'10"???????

Oh man. I wonder what the atmosphere up there is like.

NewbieToThis commented on

An image of Shonsu This really made my Monday worth facing! Thank you! Now, if only we could make people take number 5 to heart, many lives would be drastically improved... But I'll place my money on a cure for cancer first.

Shonsu commented on

An image of HaydenMuhl

*stands* *applauds*

This post should be standard reading on OKC

HaydenMuhl commented on

An image of HaydenMuhl I just wrote about this in my journal.Let us begin by stating one thing: by "women" I am not including bimbos, trixies, webcam whores,...

HaydenMuhl commented on

An image of aglow Amen!!!

aglow commented on

An image of JadedDaisy I tried to do a post like this a month or two ago -- yours is so much better than mine. Rock on!

JadedDaisy commented on

An image of Sunny406 I agree with most everyone here. *sigh*

Sunny406 commented on

An image of SatanLuciferi No, no, no, no, no. Don't help them!!! This is one of my filters! If you helpt them, then I'll have to talk to them for a few more emails and/or actually MEET them to filter them out as the losers they are. It's so much easier when it's the first email.

I know you're tired of getting those emails, but I look at it as the first line of deFence. I get one of those types of emails and I don't even have to respond.

SatanLuciferi commented on

An image of ccwpmarcus Haha @ Satan. I am jumping on the applause bandwagon too. Kudos for putting it together so well.

ccwpmarcus commented on

An image of Faceman329 I don't think you need to fear much, SL...I'd be willing to be the vast majority of guys who write those kinds of emails won't bother reading this, either. I mean, honestly now...if they can't be bothered to read a profile, do you think they're going to look into journals?

Well thought-out, and without the acrimonious edge that so many of these lists tend to take on. This one actually does come across (to me, at least) as a sincere attempt at educating the guy who wants to break the ice, but lacks the confidence (or social skills) to do it effectively, or else is so indoctrinated in the S.O.P. of dating site canvassing that he's not sure how else to do it (kind of like a telemarketer who only knows how to deal with situations laid out in the script they were trained from...)

Faceman329 commented on

An image of Faceman329 I'd be willing to be...

Grrrrrrr...y'know, I'm really starting to gain an appreciation for hard-wired keyboards...

That should be 'willing to BET...'

Faceman329 commented on

Default user image If i were ebert and roper I'd give ya 2 thumbs waaaay waaaaaay up for this post

A former user commented on

An image of Sepulpantallica Just hopping on the bandwagon and heaping needless praise onto the post. Insightful and well put. I admit, I learrned a thing or two from it.

Sepulpantallica commented on

Default user image Know what I call? I call BS. I'm sure you can guess what that stands for. Ladies, admit it, no matterhow the person writes you, if their profile doesn't intrigue you in the slightest, even if they wrote an amazingly intelligent message to you, even one that you could at least be friends with, you won't write back. I bet half the time you just look at the picture, then move on. I've written countless messages that were extremely personal, offered many discussions on their likes, and didn't get a message back. I think an added bullet point on that list should be: 8) If someone messages you that took the effort to make a nice message, but you're still not interested, write them back. Let them know that while you appreciate the time they took, you just don't think you'd both click at all. Imagine as if you were in a real place, if someone came up to you in a library, coffee shop, etc and started a conversation, you just wouldn't turn you back and ignore them. Kindness is a revolving door.

UpWayTooLate commented on

Default user image Someone once messaged to ask my ASL.

A former user commented on

Default user image I like what you wrote and yes I'm guilty of them on various occasions (not the mistreating of women however) I will try to apply some of your advice the next time I write a girl. I do think girls should draw from this as well Ive met a few girls who expect the guy to carry the conversation which is not good because I crave the interaction and exchange and talking to them feels like talking to a majic 8 ball.

DjM512mb commented on

An image of bjz99 Good advice, oops I wasn't supposed to compliment, lol. It does make a lot of sense though. I'm gonna remember it. Well, the only real thing that I needed to hear/ take away from this was the don't compliment thing and only pick one thing to talk about at first.

bjz99 commented on

Default user image uptolate does have a point I can write great letters when I find a good interest but most of the good letters I wrote go unanswered and while Id say its their loss because im a pretty cool guy and everything if you get to know me but its seems when my pictures are up they just dont talk. which is fine Im happy with the friends i got :D

DjM512mb commented on

Default user image If i cannot be an overweight, balding, naked, chronic masturbating man in front of my " persona altering magic porn machine', then what is the use of living? The entirety of my life is defined by my ability to be socially inept and completely consumed by my egotistical "cyber doppelganger". Who can I lie to real life? Where am I supposed to go to fulfill my need to entice pre-teen women into showing me their thong...." Damn you creative extroverts and your lust for real experience"!! " DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL" ( this message was brought to you by the Sheeple Messaging Services")

A former user commented on

Default user image I just wrote about this in my journal.Author's Note: If you like and/or agree with this post, please feel free to repost it anywhere! It...

A former user commented on

An image of LadybugFaerie OMG this is great. I agree with almost everything. Now, on #3 I see the reasoning, but I don't mind a clearly sincere and somewhat original compliment. I HATE the ones that clearly mean "You're hot, let's f*ck." But something a little more original that is meant to not only compliment but also open the way for dialogue is okay with me.

One of the compliments that I REALLY hate though are the one's where it's like the other party wants you to respond in kind. It's like they expect the conversation to go like this: "Ur hot." "Thanks, so r u." And honestly, I don't give compliments like that, even if I think someone IS hot. It's just not my style I guess. So I've just started saying "Thanks." I don't really know what else to say. LOL

The rest of the list is dead on. And we can't stress enough "READ THE PROFILE." I actually had a guy tell me that he doesn't really read profiles, because then we'd have nothing to talk about. My response - "Hmm, and I thought I spent a lot of thought and effort writing it to give people an introduction to who I am and be a springboard for discussion topics. Also, if I am ONLY the sum total of what's in my profile (long though it may be), then, damn, I am sad and pathetic."

I also agree with some of the guys though. I think people should be a bit more considerate in responding to an e-mail, especially if it looks like someone put a lot of thought into it. Of course, I haven't received many thoughtful e-mail. Most are of the "hey let's hook up" variety. But I try to respond to most of those, even if all I say is "Thank you for the interest. I'm not interested."

LadybugFaerie commented on

An image of bigsexybear very well written, and so true. Seems like it'd be difficult to really know who was a good guy and who's looking for a one nighter. Hurts us good guys knowing the trashy ones are out there though

bigsexybear commented on

Default user image I agree, those types will never bother to read your journal. Great post, I love it!

A former user commented on

An image of lorikah Love it! This needs to be posted on the homepage of OKC. :)

lorikah commented on

An image of fragile_truth I just wrote about this in my journal.Author's Note: If you like and/or agree with this post, please feel free to repost it anywhere! It...

fragile_truth commented on

An image of Faceman329 The point that some guys follow all of these guidelines and STILL don't get any response is true...but utterly unrelated to this post. This post is about what NOT to write if you expect a response. You can be the height of eloquence and good taste and still not get a response. That's the fault of the person you're writing to, in that case, and not you sabotaging your own chances by writing a message that's going to self-destruct. I don't recall anything in the original post that guarantees that following these guidelines will get you a favorable response...simply that NOT following them is all but guaranteed to get you a negative response. There is no formula for writing a message that is guaranteed to get a response...simply too many variables to account for. What works one day may not work the next...even if you're writing to the same person.

Faceman329 commented on

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jukeboxzero commented on

Default user image This is brilliant! Thanks for posting such a fantastic bit.

A former user commented on

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Kotodateru commented on

An image of Joreth Absolutely love this! And way nicer than all the journal entries I write about it!

Joreth commented on

Default user image Solid. I'm glad that I know at least a LITTLE about women. Now I know a little more.

A former user commented on

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Alezander commented on

An image of maeukemi Right on! :) I agree wholeheartedly!

maeukemi commented on

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Honeewoo commented on

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A former user commented on

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This is one of those things that sounds nice, but simply isn't true. People are incredibly shallow, both men and women. People need to just admit it and stop being hypocrites.

Those suggestions are pretty much every letter I've ever written on a personals/dating site. And my response rate? Probably 20% on other sites, 0% here.

The truth is, people get judged first and foremost by their looks, their personality, and how much money they make. And that's just to even get your email even read in the first place. If you're good looking or rich, you can be the biggest jerk, most offensive, or annoying person in the world in your email, and you'll probably still get a reply.

If it were just mindless platitudes, I wouldn't mind. But the danger with stuff like this is you are giving people false hope. You're going to have a lot people spending a lot of time working on a message fitting your guidelines, thinking 'Finally, maybe I'll get a reply', only to get crushed when once again, they get no response or rejected.

The honest truth is, if you aren't good looking or self confident or rich, and are a guy, you're just not going to get many replies, period. Doesn't matter one bit what you write. Just like if you are a woman who is overweight, you're almost never going to get a response either.

DiscoJer commented on

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DiscoJer commented on

Default user image Great advice! Harsh, direct and oh, so right! Guys are you getting this? If you follow these REAL suggestions and you don't get a response then there is something wrong with HER....move on.

A former user commented on

An image of Greenwin So much free insight, thank you.

Greenwin commented on

An image of Sassy_Tart Great list, great advice!

Sassy_Tart commented on

Default user image Love this! You sound kinda pissed off, but love it anyway.

A former user commented on

Default user image I just wrote about this in my journal.Author's Note: If you like and/or agree with this post, please feel free to repost it anywhere! It...

A former user commented on

Default user image Love, love, love this!

A former user commented on

An image of sfguyyy Placeholder until I get time to add this to the FAQ.. :-)

sfguyyy commented on

Default user image Ah, so true. Good advice.

A former user commented on

Default user image I have to disagree with this list and any list that is made. Seriously, even if I were to follow these rules, the problem is women will never write back.

A former user commented on

An image of JohnBlaise Okay, so there are two things that seem nonsensical in that list. 1) No compliments? What's wrong with complimenting someone so long as its genuine? I always like to have my ego stroked. 2) If its not working just drop it. That attitude is one of my biggest problems with social networking. At a bar if a person tried to chat you up, you would be a serious bitch if you just turned away and ignored them. Its basic courtesy to tell someone, "nah your just not my type" (or whatever reason it might be). Why should this be any different? And likewise, I've discovered that persistence usually does make a difference in real life, so why should the net be any different? Screw that bullshit.

JohnBlaise commented on

An image of liionheart All is not too well here... I had done this same thing before many times writing intelligent messages which shows that i not only read but analyzed there profile then took my time to prepare my message which was more or less on same line even better than this, but got no result its so hurting that girls even don't respond with "no, thanks",One lady was so impressed my message that she post it on her journal with some nice comment(my personal message?!?) but is not this very rude behavior.And main point is she still does not reply at all to me directly till now. Let alone replying in good favor.At least they must send read receipt. my suggestion to this post writer "AWIBS" is that write another post for girl to select the right message from all the mail or at least teach them to reject with courtesy.It doesn't matter that they reject but they must reject politely to a guy who took time and hard work before messaging you.

liionheart commented on

An image of TreborStag I just wrote about this in my journal.I just had to repost this one. It somewhat fits with an earlier post of mine: Yo comments whack.

TreborStag commented on

An image of crzyb73 Well said!! Cudos :)

crzyb73 commented on

An image of kathyrnn No, no, no, no, no. Don't help them!!! This is one of my filters!

Great post Awibs...but we may have to put a time-out on your sisterhood membership for revealing how we filter. "-)

kathyrnn commented on

An image of iconoclast2007 It's a good post, though I wouldn't consider it a great post. The problem, as both Joreth and DiscoJer, states, is not with just some of the men, but also some of the women. Just as there are guys who DO follow these rules, there are women who still won't respond. And yes, even some of the guys who do follow the rules, only to get a "thanks but no thanks" (shit, I just had a terriying image of me as Sarah Palin, but I digress), will still send another email calling the woman a frigid bitch or whatnot. In the end, everyone is who they are and will be, and all the advice is only as good as the people that are willing to listen to it.

iconoclast2007 commented on

An image of campbellcomplex While this post is all well and good, I sometimes get the impression that you ladies lump every guy into the same category of dumb sex-fiends that need to be talked to like children in order to initiate a conversation. You are essentially preaching to the choir because any guy who has read this completely already understands all the points and the guys you are trying to reach closed the window after 5 sentences. And by all means, ignore the dipshits who have no manners. They don't need a response because that will just give them a chance irritate you further. One thing I have noticed in my time on OKC is the fact that a girl I have written/IMed only looks at my profile roughly 25% of the time, and I'm sure that most guys can say the same. Ladies scream and holler about about reading profiles but you are often just as guilty of doing the same thing. Even if a guy makes a decent effort to initiate conversation in a polite and appealing manner, its rather hypocritical not to read up yourself. Its obvious that there are errors on both sides of the table when it comes to dating in generalized terms. Guys need to step up their game across the board and girls need to loosen up a bit. That's not to say "don't be so prudish", but give our gender a break every once in a while. Most girls are still stuck in this whole world where they expect the guy to make first contact, drive conversation, and so on...and its rather tiresome. A guy shouldn't have to worry about jumping through 10 different hoops in order to just say hello. We [I think I can speak for all guys] don't expect the same of you gals....most of the time we are ecstatic when a girl randomly says hi.

campbellcomplex commented on

An image of FatsoForgotso Fuckin WIN

FatsoForgotso commented on

An image of Digital_Josh A very good read. Nicely done.

Digital_Josh commented on

An image of crxer complete feminist bullshit and i doubt many guys would write you on this site. Anyway just dropped by to say you're guide sucks and you aren't anything special nor are any girls on this site any better then any of the guys i write whatever the fuck i want and it works peace.

crxer commented on

An image of myotherlips As much as I like the idea of men knowing this, I also have to highly agree with Satan. It's much easier, more practical, & more efficient if they don't know. I don't want to have to be "tricked" by a loser.

myotherlips commented on

An image of Blue_Route I do like this... I am going to read it more when I am less drunk.

Blue_Route commented on

Default user image 6 and 7 are rediculous and im wondering why you a married woman are on a datesite if your profiles not faked and 89% of women online are men. I wonder why I dont even bother bullshiting females with what im about after reading shit like this. maybe someone less bitter needs to give advice if your trying to make dating advice and women on here if youve got a screenname with the name suzysluttysexy and pics of you bent over a bed in underwear dont bitch out guys for treating you like a whore as I typicaly see that, maybe you need to put note to ladies dont confused bisexual or sexual with antisexual/nonsexual. i really wish okcupid would have that sexual preference for you sexaphobic females. end of rant.your kind of a twit and women like you make me poly.

A former user commented on

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"by "women" I am not including bimbos, trixies, webcam whores, and people with an IQ of less than 3 digits"

But they are women too, you elitist, classist, hollier-than-thou bitch!

ILoveNothing commented on

Default user image So many wrong things with this post. My main problem with it is its heavy reinforcement of stereotypes.

ILoveNothing commented on

An image of curiouscack I am new here, stumbled across the post, I enjoyed it. There are some good points here that the general GOOD guy can benefit from and see improvement. Devils' Advocate: If honesty and sincerity are the key; why do so many women put their OLDEST photo first? As bad as 10 years prior... With that, I agree with the gentlemen who state that women are worse than men. They immediately group men, like stocking a shelf- canned, boxed, fruit... mmm, MEAT (click). lmao That's funny, I don't care who you are. But, I have noticed 75% or better-- women who talk, didn't look at your profile and women who look, don't talk. I am thick skinned, a rejection is still a reply. Thank you, moving on.

curiouscack commented on

An image of BMinor Well done! This should be listed in the Terms of Use or something. I should also note that, no matter how good the message, if your profile has no picture and/or info, nobody will feel terribly compelled to write you back. However, you must put thought into both a.) picture and b.) info. Feel free to check out my journal entry on the subject of inappropriate pictures. :D

BMinor commented on

An image of spades2585 Nice, well writen. 8)

spades2585 commented on

An image of tribs13 Noooo... this is horrible advice! To all prospective males... Look away! Nothing to see here! Move along!

tribs13 commented on

An image of sm8000 Bravo :-)

sm8000 commented on

An image of t0f3r hey wait. maybe you shouldn't let this secret out. if a guy can't figure out how to talk to a woman on the internet, he should be left behind without any help. teaching these morons to get what they want is working AGAINST evolution. let natural selection work this out.

t0f3r commented on

An image of awe_some Number 7, NUMBER 7, NUMBER 7. If I get one more message or IM where a guy references my breasts I am going to go postal. I didn't dress provocatively, I'm not showing cleavage, and I'm already aware that I have them. They are not a suitable topic of conversation, you are not creative or unique, and I don't find talking about our bodies nearly as stimulating as the men apparently do. Thank you for this. Great list.

awe_some commented on