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ipsafictura

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Mountain View, California

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How to win me and influence me.

Occasionally, I see people complaining about stupid/irritating contact they receive on OKCupid. God knows, I get my share. Some of them, no doubt, are uninterested in not being stupid or irritating. Some of them, I assume, are attempting to attract a kind of woman I am not, and so while it doesn't work on me, it does work on their target audience. I am certain, however, that some of them must just be inadvertently fucking up.

So I said to myself, 'self' says I, 'perhaps they'd like some advice?' And it seemed like a good idea, so I thought I'd write down some suggestions on how to make a good impression on me, and women who are at least generally similar to me. Of course, there are certainly plenty of women for whom these statements are not true, though I'll try to be as general as possible. Since OkCupid is primarily a dating site, this is focused on contact which involves some level of romantic or sexual interest, but nearly everything here applies to platonic contact as well. Ladies (or indeed gents) who read my journal, feel free to chime in with your opinion on things to be done or not done.

1. Reconsider the IM button.
I keep my IM turned on because I chat with some people occasionally, but I really prefer initial contact via email. It gives me a chance to read your profile and answer when I'm actually ready to do so, rather than forcing me to make a snap judgment on whether you're worth talking to which will frequently not work in your favor.

2. Keep it in your pants.
Unless you're looking for a sex partner exclusively, leave sexual content out of the first contact. It will create a bad impression with a lot of women, and those who don't care probably won't be disappointed at the lack.

3. Let moderation be your watchword.
It's good to comment on some stuff in my profile. It is not good to comment on EVERYTHING in my profile. It's overwhelming, and a little stalkery. Pick out a few subjects of interest and talk about them, say a little about yourself or introduce an interesting subject. Say more than a sentence or two, but also watch your length. The initial message is not the time to say every last thing you can think of. Hopefully, there will be some back and forth, save a bit for the next email.

4. Proofread.
Not everyone is a language geek. I'm not saying you have to be perfect, but run a quick spell check and read through what you've written to check for any glaring errors. You can look poorly educated when the truth is simply that you were rushed.

5. Please don't self-aggrandize.
Look, don't tell me you're deep, or smart or insightful or cool, evidence it. You look egotistical when you rattle off a bunch of complimentary self-descriptors and if anything I'm less inclined to believe it.

6. For that matter, don't flatter.
It's fine to say something nice about me, but make sure you have more content in your email than just compliments. Otherwise you're not inviting any response other than a thank you. Also, seriously, it's fine if you want to tell me I'm pretty, but only say it once and don't make it the focus of your email.

7. Slow down, tiger.
Please don't ask me on a date in the first email. Or ask for my personal email, or any other personal contact information. Even if I would generally be well disposed towards you, I will not accept a date offer from someone I have not so much as exchanged a few emails with. If I wanted to do that, I could get set up on blind dates. Asking for my personal contact information right off just puts me in the position of refusing you.

8. You're contacting me, you can't play hard to get.
I had a guy email me recently, and the bulk of his email was about why he almost didn't email me because I seemed brash and off-putting. Dude, what? I don't expect you to flatter my ego, but isn't that a little silly? It just seems disingenuous and like you're trying too hard not to look desperate. Interesting note, same guy also broke number 7 and 5. Sort of all over the map, that one.

That's everything I can think of quickly, and this post is already way too long. Weigh in, hapless victims of my opiniondom!
Occasionally, I see people complaining about stupid/irritatingcontact they receive on OKCupid. God knows, I get my share. Some ofthem, no doubt, are uninterested in not being stupid or irritating.Some of them, I assume, are attempting to attract a kind of woman Iam not, and so while it doesn't work on me, it does work on theirtarget audience. I am certain, however, that some of them must justbe inadvertently fucking up.

So I said to myself, 'self' says I, 'perhaps they'd like someadvice?' And it seemed like a good idea, so I thought I'd writedown some suggestions on how to make a good impression on me, andwomen who are at least generally similar to me. Of course, thereare certainly plenty of women for whom these statements are nottrue, though I'll try to be as general as possible. Since OkCupidis primarily a dating site, this is focused on contact whichinvolves some level of romantic or sexual interest, but nearlyeverything here applies to platonic contact as well. Ladies (orindeed gents) who read my journal, feel free to chime in with youropinion on things to be done or not done.

1. Reconsider the IM button.
I keep my IM turned on because I chat with some peopleoccasionally, but I really prefer initial contact via email. Itgives me a chance to read your profile and answer when I'm actuallyready to do so, rather than forcing me to make a snap judgment onwhether you're worth talking to which will frequently not work inyour favor.

2. Keep it in your pants.
Unless you're looking for a sex partner exclusively, leave sexualcontent out of the first contact. It will create a bad impressionwith a lot of women, and those who don't care probably won't bedisappointed at the lack.

3. Let moderation be your watchword.
It's good to comment on some stuff in my profile. It is not good tocomment on EVERYTHING in my profile. It's overwhelming, and alittle stalkery. Pick out a few subjects of interest and talk aboutthem, say a little about yourself or introduce an interestingsubject. Say more than a sentence or two, but also watch yourlength. The initial message is not the time to say every last thingyou can think of. Hopefully, there will be some back and forth,save a bit for the next email.

4. Proofread.
Not everyone is a language geek. I'm not saying you have to beperfect, but run a quick spell check and read through what you'vewritten to check for any glaring errors. You can look poorlyeducated when the truth is simply that you were rushed.

5. Please don't self-aggrandize.
Look, don't tell me you're deep, or smart or insightful or cool,evidence it. You look egotistical when you rattle off a bunch ofcomplimentary self-descriptors and if anything I'm lessinclined to believe it.

6. For that matter, don't flatter.
It's fine to say something nice about me, but make sure you havemore content in your email than just compliments. Otherwise you'renot inviting any response other than a thank you. Also, seriously,it's fine if you want to tell me I'm pretty, but only say it onceand don't make it the focus of your email.

7. Slow down, tiger.
Please don't ask me on a date in the first email. Or ask for mypersonal email, or any other personal contact information. Even ifI would generally be well disposed towards you, I will not accept adate offer from someone I have not so much as exchanged a fewemails with. If I wanted to do that, I could get set up on blinddates. Asking for my personal contact information right off justputs me in the position of refusing you.

8. You're contacting me, you can't play hard to get.
I had a guy email me recently, and the bulk of his email was aboutwhy he almost didn't email me because I seemed brash andoff-putting. Dude, what? I don't expect you to flatter my ego, butisn't that a little silly? It just seems disingenuous and likeyou're trying too hard not to look desperate. Interesting note,same guy also broke number 7 and 5. Sort of all over themap, that one.

That's everything I can think of quickly, and this post is alreadyway too long. Weigh in, hapless victims of my opiniondom!
How to win me and influence me.
An image of darwinsDIdea Actually write?! And I always thought the way to your heart was with a few, well chosen, new words. ;-)

darwinsDIdea commented on

An image of sfguyyy A very nice list indeed. Some variation of which should be standard reading material before using social websites. Perhaps OKC could come up with a variant that would limit your "percent of profile completed" unless you read it first.. :-)

sfguyyy commented on

An image of madhatte That all seems quite reasonable to me.

madhatte commented on

An image of munchwolf So sending messages psychically is right out?

munchwolf commented on

An image of ipsafictura Munchwolf: Well, I can guarantee you won't annoy me doing that, so, go for it.

sfguyyy: Ah, but then it would just be like those user agreements that everyone clicks through and doesn't read.

ipsafictura commented on

Default user image re sfguyyy's point and your response... They could have a test.

A former user commented on

An image of Abaculo This seems pretty right on to me. The only thing I would add, for those of us that do leave our IM's on.. please actually have something to say if you are the one establishing the IM contact. At the very least, if you dont have anything to say.. feel free to say that and that you were just in the mood to listen to someone tell them a story. I mean, really, I personally might find myself (in the right moods) charmed by an admission of such.. but the people that contact me and then offer nothing (sometimes really, Nothing; even though they are still there).. let us say, it is horribly off-putting. And yes.. by the way, for the random ones.. stories.. both told and received are nice.. but it’s likely best to assume that more people than not do not so much live the love of the random wo(r)lds. (especially if they haven’t stated it somewhere *runs to make sure he stated it somewhere*)

Abaculo commented on

An image of VulcanTourist Works for me. :thup:

VulcanTourist commented on

Default user image #2 is totally true. I sent Ipsafictura a picture of my penis and she totally won't hook up with me now.

A former user commented on

An image of Salaparuta Oh, judgmentalist, don't you know you're supposed to send a picture of a penis more attractive than your own?

Salaparuta commented on

Default user image

"Don't tell me you're deep...evidence it."

9. Don't use nouns as verbs. Sorry; I am a grammar geek. :þ)

A former user commented on

An image of ipsafictura Another important note! It is necessary, if you wanna get with me, that you be as like judgmentalist as humanly possible.

ipsafictura commented on

Default user image 10. Remember to turn off your italic HTML tags. Damn, missed one.

A former user commented on

An image of ipsafictura Gaah1969: Ehem.

10. Don't Correct Me Unless You're Sure I'm Wrong

I believe you will find that evidence is both a noun and a verb.

ipsafictura commented on

Default user image Salaparuta, I am offended that you would suggest that there are penises more attractive than my own.

A former user commented on

An image of NuttyIrishman Rawr, she called me tiger!

NuttyIrishman commented on

An image of D_Vorsay Gaah Busted. Evidence is a transitive verb (with both bivalent and trivalent forms in some dialects).

ipsa I'll propose a new #9. Fill out your profile first. If you can be bothered to write something more useful than "self-summaries are hard, just ask" in your profile, why should I bother to? At least give me enough that you don't look like another Nigerian spammer.

munch You are sending about 15 miles off. Try north and a bit east.

D_Vorsay commented on

An image of mitmoi 4. Proofread.

At one time I thought I was capable of this task. Extended time on OKC has taught me other wise. It is a sad, sad fact. :(

7. Slow down, tiger. Amen Sister, Amen!

mitmoi commented on

An image of mitmoi See right there! I stand corrected, "Otherwise". *sigh*

mitmoi commented on

An image of lm44 Spelling is over ratted

lm44 commented on

An image of mitmoi It is a rat, agreed!

mitmoi commented on

An image of lm44 Oh MM, you silly girl. it was rated purposely misspelled. You have brought a giggle to my <3

lm44 commented on

An image of mitmoi I am NOT that silly. I got that you spelled it wrong! But glad you're giggling.

mitmoi commented on

An image of lm44 Doubly funny now! Ha ha, I'm an idiot

lm44 commented on

An image of Salaparuta Dang, judgmentalist, I had no way of knowing. I am both sorry and pleased.

Salaparuta commented on

An image of mitmoi I am pleased to be the one giggling for a change! It's alright Ms. Judgementalist, it's a difficult habit to break! :) Trust me, I know!

mitmoi commented on

An image of MauiKeith Thanks so muck. These are excellent suggestions, IMHO. I do feel a bit differently about making first contact through the IM feature, though. My reasoning stems from the idea that the IM thing is so quirky that one wouldn't have it on unless one wanted to receive first contact through it. After I get to know someone I give them my yahoo IG, as I find that system a bit easier to use. So, unless a profile requests "please e-mail before sending an IM" I don't feel it's a breach of etiquette to send a simple "aloha!". a hui hou! keith

MauiKeith commented on

An image of GardenMinstrel And if you do all these things, and make sure you're really writing only those whom you think will be interested in you *after you read what they're looking for*...you might get 10-20% of these people to write back to you. :)

But they all strike me as eminently constructive suggestions. Which the people who *need* to read...won't see themselves in. :P

GardenMinstrel commented on

An image of tiphane I really hate receiving form letters in my inbox. It looks like the guy just copied and pasted it into many, many messages in the hopes of a return email. ugh.

tiphane commented on

Default user image Good evening tiphane, my name is Steve. I come from a rough area. I used to be addicted to crack but now I am off it and trying to stay clean. That is why I am selling magazine subscriptions.

A former user commented on

An image of CatWhisperer42 You want people to establish a reasonable discourse AND have basic social skills? Kind of a lot to expect, don't you think? ;)

CatWhisperer42 commented on

An image of tedpro I like the idea of something being over-ratted. Like, maybe it is covered with rats. Maybe even a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rat_king">Rattenkonig.</a> Good ol' Rattenkonigs. Why don't you mention them in your list, ipsafictura? Surely a Rattenkonig would win your heart. Chicks dig Rattenkonigs.

tedpro commented on

An image of Najalaise I was a Rattenkonig for Halloween, ipsafictura. Have I charmed you yet?

Najalaise commented on

An image of ipsafictura Najalaise: No, to charm me, there must be pictures of your costume.

ipsafictura commented on

Default user image I am the liking of this journalistica. It is for me, very pretty in one's eye. And yu dear sir or madame, are very to one's eyes, to.

Okay, I give. I can't write that way too long before losing my remaining marble. I actually received an IM that sounded very much like that last week. This week, my IM has been off. Coincidental, I'm sure.

All very much a roundabout way of saying, "You've made cogent and thoughtful points, ipsafictura. Clearly you must be taken out back and shot." This is OKC, after all.

mrmccool commented on