Jan 8, 2013 12:54am

Well, rather than post this in the Best Buy thread, I am making a new one.

If anyone, such as otis, still hasn't bought a tv, but is about to.... the 2013 tvs are already about to be out. I think the Panasonic plasmas, which are always the best tvs you can get, owill already be out next month. And they retail for less than last year's, so the best set for the money, the ST50, will likely get even cheaper soon, or you could get the ST60 for barely more than current prices of ST50, I bet.

I may buy an ST60 to try. If they would make the new ZT60 in under 55 inches I would want it, but they don't... so i would have to get 55 inches or forget that one. And if I buy any tv at all and keep it, i have to figure out how to sell my current tv.


Jan 8, 2013 3:36am

Didn't get one during the holiday like I planned to, but will shortly. Turned out that the living room cable connection I was planning on hooking up (which we'd never used) isn't turned on.'

Got to get the cable people out here first.

But I did read up on TV's and you recommendation of Panasonic's ST50 being the best, was echoed everywhere. So I'll keep an eye out for sales on it.



Jan 8, 2013 11:16am


Jan 8, 2013 2:08pm

burghgina is sure obsessed with me. keeps following me around. dude, I am not into gay marriage, plus it's not legal here. in Sane-essee.

otis, I may get the ST60 to try, but I dont see how it will hurt my head less than the ST50. The zt50 has a panel which normally only professionals get in their tvs, has a thinner "gas layer", etc.... so I wonder if any of that would bother my head less.

If you do want an ST50, though, you better hurry, because I think a lot of the panasonics stopped being available in stores at all VERY close to the release date of the new ones last year. So any time now they may stop being at Best Buy, for example. But I bet someone will have a crazy low deal on it soon.

Last year the 50 inch ST30 got all the way down to like $800.


Jan 8, 2013 2:17pm

Yes, the st50 50" was $771 on amazon but that doesn't include shipping etc.

I'm going to check Best Buy next. The can always ship it free to the store for pickup, if the local store doesn't have it in stock.


Jan 9, 2013 11:51pm

Only thing is those $700 range oens are used and so you can't have a clue as to whether they are defective or not. As good as the tv is, i would bet it is indeed defective for anyone to return one though.

I am soooooooooo tempted to do this! I found an awesome PROJECTOR. It's a 3d one for elss money than my tv costw as. It comes with 2 pairs of glasses, is 1080p, uses lcd technology (which i like and doesn't bother my head as much usually), etc... Only thing is where I plan to use the tv NOW, there is no ideal way to set it up. I would either have to get some sort of stand and use it in front of the wall or else move it to another wall. And the wall is about 10 feet away. Also you have to figure out where to put the projector where your head wont be between it and the screen, obviously.

But it would be so cool. People say the 3D is BEYOND awesome and has no problems that 3d tvs do. I am so so tempted. I would have to find someone to buy my tv though and thatisn't easy, most likely.

Jan 10, 2013 5:20am

Speaking of 3D, which I don't like on the teenie Nintendo 3DS screen so much, but might like on a bigger screen: I bought a Playstation 3D screen last year (made by Sony) that I never set up to use.

I'm pretty sure that it can be used to connect cable and watch tv as well.  Going to try that when I get the cable hooked up.


Jan 10, 2013 5:29am

For some reason some tvs I dont notice the 3d much, but on my current tv I used it and like it. But plasmas and projectors are better for it than led. Im sad because a projecter would be perfect for me, but then I started thiniking how in th world could you position it and not have your head in the way? You would have to have the screen ABOVE eye level where you could put the projector above your head. So that sucks. :(

Jan 10, 2013 5:37am

I thought the projector sat right near the front of the tv, not behind the viewer?


Jan 10, 2013 5:43am

no this is ons where you use a screen you put up and then project the pic onto it and I assume it's got to be straight, not at an angle. Although I remember some people said you can attach it to the ceiling, so I am so confused.

Jan 10, 2013 12:42pm

i bought a 60 in sharp aquos for $999 and im really really happy with it.


Jan 10, 2013 4:41pm

As I recall plasma TVs  have been around for 10 years now. It seems that the state of the art tv is a big LED screen with 3D.

Maybe they are selling the Panasonic Plasma TVs because they are obsolete.

I was in Walmart today, they no longer sell any TV that has a Cathode Ray Tube.


Jan 10, 2013 5:02pm

Plasmas are still better TVs. Blacker blacks, less motion blur. LED/LCDs have gotten "less bad" but I prefer the look of Plasma overall.

I'm not a fan of 3D because the there is not much media available. Not to mention you have to wear those goofy glasses to even see it.

I have an Apple TV hooked up too a Mac Mini and 5 TB of media, so having a "Smart TV" is not necessary.


Jan 10, 2013 7:08pm

yeah, plasmas have the better picture. They just don't sell as well because apparently the average person cares more about extra brightness and thinness than they do about picture quality. With the 2012 (and clearly, 2013) Panasonic plasmas, you can get them a lot brighter than past plasmas and they have the best picture you can get on any tv made in the past many years. The main thing about plasmas which you just CAN'T get in ANY led is perfect uniformity. Watch from any angle and see a great picture with no faded colors. No light bleedthrough etc. But they bother my head even mroe than leds. But since my led bothers my head a lot too I am tempted to see if I can sell it, get a plasma for much less, then I would have better picture and be out less money and just would not be able to use it every day though.


Jan 11, 2013 9:11pm

If you dont get one at a mighty good deal, I would wait for the ST60. Because basically the ST60 is the same specs as the GT50, a step up from the ST50, and you get two pairs of 3d glasses. So at current prices I think you would be paying hardly anything more for the ST60 and glasses as you would if you get an ST50 and glasses.


Jan 11, 2013 10:44pm

i'm happy with my 40" lcd. i don't give a crap about 3d, not willing to pay extra for led and i like plasma but not willing to pay extra for what seems to be a technology being phased out. my 40" lcd has a beautiful picture, has plenty of inputs, mounted to my wall easily ( and cheaply), and didn't cost me a fortune.


Jan 11, 2013 11:01pm

Since tvs keep hurting my head, I still use my 40 inch LCD sometimes to try to see if it helps my head. There are some things beter with an LCD than an led-lcd. For one thing it doesn't have light shine through the screen in the same way. It does have it shine through, but in a different, elss distracting way. The overall picture is better on an LED, but the color accuracy is better on traditional LCD and also a traditional LCD does not have reflection issues due to usually being matte screens.

As for 3D, I didn't care about it, but now that I tried it some, I like it and may watch a few movies in 3D per year.


Jan 14, 2013 6:34pm

What's a good budget tv about 40"? I don't need fancy internet features..I get that via WMC and my WD streaming box already.


Have a cheap but good samsung 32 in den, but want to move it to bedroom and get a 40 for den.




Jan 16, 2013 4:08pm

I don't know. It gets tougher to find good 40 inch ones anymore. I wanted to try a 40 or 42 to see if it bothered my head less than 46s and none of the tv manufacturers make their best ones in those sizes anymore, so it sucks that they leave out a lot of good features and the best black levels and whatnot. For plasma, some liked the 42 inch ut50 model, which is basically the st50, but without a good filter so more reflections and worse black levels, I believe. I can't really think of anything exactly 40 inches. For a while there were some 40ex500 Sonys still being sold, but all of those sold out. I would say most 40 inch ones will be close to the same as each other. Some of the 40/42 inch leds are decent, some of the 40/42 inch regular LCDs are decent, etc... I usually just look at CNET ratings to get a decent idea.


Jan 20, 2013 9:55am

lol. I have been testing the projector I bought and it's kinda funny in such a small room watching an over 100 inch screen. After messing with settings and using the focus and zoom for various reasons it has a great picture, overall, and great 3D. Only bad things are 1. it's VERY difficult to think of an ideal position to have the projector in. If I put it behind me, I have to sit in the floor if I want to be in the center of the screen. If I were to put the projector in FRONT of me, well then the projector is going to block some of the bottom of the screen. SO the only way I see a projector being very ideal is if you ceiling mount it. Also the black levels are pretty bad on this one, but everything else is good. And when there is even a LOW amount of light in the room, it has a bad picture. So you have to have all light blocked out and then it's amazing to be watching a huge screen. From where I have the projector at the moment, how I use zoom changes the screen size from about 40-something inches up to somewhere around 102. In the center of the zooming (where you're supposed to keep it, really) I think it's like 72 or something from my distance.

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