Jan 28, 2012 6:55am

Ah, once again using the "I know you are" response, hmm?

Jan 28, 2012 10:22am



That's SM's M.O.


Jan 28, 2012 10:33am

Nah. It's his. ;)

Jan 29, 2012 7:50am

If this doesn't work out (my eyes and head are already feeling annoyingly different) I really think the tv to get for 2012 as far as edge lit led will be the LG sets. I tried an LG 55LW5600 in 2011 and the only real complaints would be not a low enough black level, bad input lag for gaming (I didnt try, but everyone says so), and not good enough cotnrast. The black levels and cotntrast probably pretty much go together on that.

If the 2012 models improve black level and input lag AT ALL, they will be awesome. They're the most innovative sets of any brand for 2012. They once again have passive 3D, which I personally like better than active.

But here are the real improvements:
1. Dual Play- If you are playing a video game on your gaming console and are playing multiplayer with a split screen of top and bottom, you can now wear special glasses which make it look FULL screen. So you would see only YOUR half of the screen, expanded out to fill the whole screen and the other person would see only theirs filling the whole screen.
2. More 3D controls- You can adjust the depth.
3. Smart tv- Much better smart tv features such as better browsing (one tv is a google tv), html 5 support, flash support, better apps, etc....
4. The top models allow you to control the tv with voice commands.

To me the picture quality matters much more than anything else. So it still needs to improve the contrast/black levels. If it does I think it may be the right tv for me. Hopefully it can do that while still using a matte screen. Because it appears that glass screens are what are causing my issues since matte led sets have not bothered me as much as glass ones. But anyway these tvs will be out by March at the latest. So hopefully I know much more before having to return this set to Best Buy. Only problem is I got this Sony for $999 and I would be surprised if any of the new LGs model 6700 or higher will cost less than $1600, which is a lot for an edge lit. If it would truly have good enough black levels and low input lag I would pay $1600 for it though to get these awesome features and the cheap,e asy 3D of passive.

Jan 29, 2012 2:45pm

After 8 or 9 tries, you'd think you'd stop buying TVs at Best Buy.


Jan 29, 2012 3:59pm

Better learn to read before insulting. I have bought only 2 from there.

Jan 31, 2012 7:12am

Well now the last tv from Amazon was just picked up. I have all these papers in a huge stack which are return authorizations for all the tvs I have returned to various places. I would say at this point I'm down to SOnys and 2012 LGs as the only chocies.

Jan 31, 2012 7:57am

After 8 or 9 tries, you'd think you'd stop buying TVs.


Jan 31, 2012 8:13am



Jan 31, 2012 11:13am

Nah. I'm going to end up with a good tv after wasting all this time. Not going to stick with a worse one and give up like studd gave up on lfie or finding a gf.

Jan 31, 2012 11:38am


Jan 31, 2012 12:04pm

I was already reading about how 4k resolution is a waste of time. OLED sets should be great, though, but will cost like 5 times as much as current sets.

Feb 5, 2012 12:29pm

Sigh. Now the expensive tv sold out at one palce it was cheapest at and the other with the same price is close tos elling out and likely amazon wont match them ona technicality. i may ahve to buy it and keep it no matter what by buying from someoene lse. or I would have to pay more to Amazon to be allowed to return it and then if I decided to keep it, it would be sold out everywhere else.

Feb 5, 2012 12:47pm

I was already reading about how 4k resolution is a waste of time.

Not really for larger screens. Around 46 inches is where 1080p hits that razor sharp image quality sweet shot so by the time you get up to 65 inches the pixels are getting quite large. The only way to attain that 1080p 46 inch screen level of sharpness on a huge screen is for resolution to evolve.


Feb 5, 2012 1:37pm

I'm just telling you what CNET said and they are usually generally right on a lot of things. or, rather, one aprticular writer from CNET said that. I can't comment on my own opinion because my vision sucks so if I were sitting normal distance away then I wouldn't see the pixel geometry no matter what the resolution. Also, though, even on current tvs a lot of articles insist that 1080p is not noticably better than 720p and I believe it said (just as the CNET article said about 4k) that your eyes are not capable of seeing a difference because they are not capable of seeing a pixel that small from normal distance to begin with.

Feb 5, 2012 2:00pm

even on current tvs a lot of articles insist that 1080p is not noticably better than 720p

This is completely dependent on screen size. On a 42 inch I bet they are close to identical but no way in hell once you get over 50 inches.



Feb 5, 2012 2:11pm

Just telling you what they say. :p Several sites. Me personally I would never buy 720p and take a chance on it to begin with. Either way, as far as 4k goes it won't be cheap enough for the majority to afford for probably 5 years from now anwyay so I might as well buy one and wait 5 eyars and then would want a new tv anyway. I've seen people on some of the tech forum sites saying they freakin buy a new tv EVERY YEAR. That's really kind of dumb unless you just flat out have a ton of money to keep throwing away on it.

Feb 5, 2012 2:16pm

I'm mad I didn't buy the 929 months ago. Buydig used to have the tv, narnia starter kit, bracket, and hdmi cable all for $1999. Now the cehapest anyone ahs the tv alone is $2099 and Amazon is charigng nearly $2300. I really don't think the 929 is worth double the price of the nx720, but it's supposedly better in 3D, I assume less flashlighting/haloing/clouding, and i am curious if it may make the actual sharpness better since lights will be behind every part of the screen. The only annoying things on the nx720 are SLIGHT flashlighting and it does seem a little faded to a degree. Plus havent tried the 3D but supposedly horrible. The 929 is the best 46 inch LCD ever, I believe. Anything better than it only comes in larger sizes. In fact even including plasmas... and in the pastr the kuro plasmas I believe were above 46 as well. So it's basically paying a premium to know you have the best 46 incher ever created, arguably. It comes down to whether I want to buy the best tv or if I want both the nx720 and a washer and dryer for the same price. lol

Feb 6, 2012 1:45pm

Sweet. Amazon did go ahead and match this other price despite there being a technicality which could have caused them to say no. So that knocked another $170 or so off. But since doing their deal to get the narnia bundle thrown in woudl ahve amde the tv take MUCH longer to arrive and also they could have refused to price match due to it I just didn't add that. So now in a few days I may try to convince them to give me that deal shipped separately which they did once before, but said it was a one time courtesy... Anyway even with all these discounts it's still FOUR times what I would have kept the plasma for. I do get the best 46 LED ever made though. But at more than double the price of the almost as good one.

Feb 8, 2012 7:13pm

Wow. I am surprised how much heavier the XBR is compared with the lower end model. I ahd put togetehr several Sonys from the past year or two and all were similar in packaging, weight, etc... and this is heavy. I guess full array adds a lot more weight than I figured. And even the look of the frame of the tv is slightly different. I better be careful not to break the thing lifting it up... And w00t I got a November build so it shouldn't have the defects the earleir oens had with the screen crease. i hope.

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